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posted by Paul Rak  on April 27, 2010, 6:25 a.m. (9 years, 5 months, 22 days ago)
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Hi.

 

As I ve previously here, we are currently a Qube! site. Now, Qube does everything we want it to, but bearing in mind the current economic climate here in the UK (bad), the education sector in particular (dire), and the price of Qube licenses (desperate), I now feel it necessary to explore other options..

 

Here s a brief overview of our requirements:

 

-Job submission from Windows Vista or Windows 7 client machines.

-In-app job submission would be nice, but not essential.

-Support for 3dsmax 2010, XSI 2010, and Maya 2010.

-Worker software must run on Linux (XSI/Maya) and Windows (3dsmax). d really love to lose 3dsmax..)

-Windows Active Directory authentication.

-Our worker machines are rackmount multi-processor/multi-core dedicated render machines with huge RAM and disks.

-The client machines are not used for rendering.

-I d prefer as much as possible of the system to live on Linux. The less Windows, the better!

-Cheaper than Qube!

 

(background info: a few years ago, I trialled all the available systems Rush/Deadline/Muster etc, so I am familiar with what was available THEN)

 

Suggestions, please?

 

Paul Rak

 

 

 

 

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Rak, Paul
Sent: 30 March 2010 09:50
To: 'discuss@studiosysadmins.com'
Subject: RE: Render management software

 

Qube s had in-application submission plug-ins for years. It was one of the reasons I originally selected it.

These days, the plug-ins look just the same as the QUBEGUI submission forms.

 

 

 

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Savvas
Sent: 29 March 2010 23:38
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: Render management software

 

We have an enfuzion installation at astral media in Toronto! Works great. Enfusion also has sripts written for most of the commonly used applications like max, Maya, after effects so users can submit their job within the applications.

 

Great work with cloud computing if we need it!


Savvas Apatsidis

IC Technology

P.416.869.0001

C.416.919.6688

support@ictech.ca


On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:50 PM, "Mike Duffy | EnFuzion3D" <Mike.Duffy@EnFuzion3D.com> wrote:

Hi All, wanted to jump in here and offer EnFuzion as another option/solution to

render farm management. It s 100% scalable, written in C, native OS support,

in the commercial marketplace for 12+ years, integrated with Maya/Max/XSI and

AE launch jobs from the app to farm, also templates for most of the other 3D apps,

no scripting required, works out of the box, installs easily, easy to manage.

 

Our only problem no one know about us best kept secret, we are trying

to change this.  I admit I am biased..J

 

Mike

 

Mike Duffy

+ 1 (714) 960 5229

http://www.enfuzion3d.com

 

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Dany Brouillette
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:35 AM
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: Render management software

 

Hi,

I saw Muster in list, it's a really good product for SMALL shop (less than 40 nodes) ...  If you put too much render node on it, your start to have some communication problems between the manager and the nodes, and then you need to tweak the app ...  Reboot the manager, etc ...  Was 122 nodes, we saw the problem happen at 50 nodes.

Maybe the problem is solve by now, I had this experience 2 years ago.  We had to find another solution, we tried RUSH, and we never had to deal with this kind of network problems.

Rush is awesome, flexible, and Greg is giving REALLY GOOD/NICE/INFORMATIVE support.

Salut !
Dan !

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Response from Anonymous @ April 27, 2010, 1:15 p.m.
We have been using Rush here at luma for over 6 years now, and we are content with it. It's multi-platform, supports all the major vendor applications, 3dsmax, maya, xsi, and it's highly customizable since it supports pretty much any scripting language, so you can script functionality that is similar to Qube! with Python or Perl and a MySQL db. Sure Rush doesn't have all the bells and whistles that come with Qube! but it's price more then makes up for it's feature short comings.

If the economic situation is such that a free solution would be better, I'd recommend you consider Dr. Queue.


Good luck,

Artin Matousian
System Administrator
luma pictures
310.888.8738 p.
310.888.8739 f.
310.845.5124 m..
luma-pictures.com


On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Rak, Paul <P.A.Rak@tees.ac.uk> wrote:

Hi.

?

As I?ve previously here, we are currently a Qube! site. Now, Qube does everything we want it to, but bearing in mind the current economic climate here in the UK (bad), the education sector in particular (dire), and the price of Qube licenses (desperate), ?I now feel it necessary to explore other options..

?

Here?s a brief overview of our requirements:

?

-Job submission from Windows Vista or Windows 7 client machines.

-In-app job submission would be nice, but not essential.

-Support for 3dsmax 2010, ?XSI 2010, and Maya 2010.

-Worker software must run on Linux (XSI/Maya) and Windows (3dsmax). ?(I?d really love to lose 3dsmax..)

-Windows Active Directory authentication.

-Our worker machines are rackmount multi-processor/multi-core dedicated render machines with huge RAM and disks.

-The client machines are not used for rendering.

-I?d prefer as much as possible of the system to live on Linux. The less Windows, the better!

-Cheaper than Qube!

?

(background info: a few years ago, I trialled all the available systems Rush/Deadline/Muster etc, so I am familiar with what was available THEN)

?

Suggestions, please?

?

Paul Rak

?

?

?

?

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Rak, Paul
Sent: 30 March 2010 09:50
To: 'discuss@studiosysadmins.com'
Subject: RE: Render management software

?

Qube?s had in-application submission plug-ins for years. It was one of the reasons I originally selected it.

These days, the plug-ins look just the same as the QUBEGUI submission forms.

?

?

?

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Savvas
Sent: 29 March 2010 23:38
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: Render management software

?

We have an enfuzion installation at astral media in Toronto! Works great. Enfusion also has sripts written for most of the commonly used applications like max, Maya, after effects so users can submit their job within the applications.

?

Great work with cloud computing if we need it!


Savvas Apatsidis

IC Technology

P.416.869.0001

C.416.919.6688

support@ictech.ca


On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:50 PM, "Mike Duffy | EnFuzion3D" <Mike.Duffy@EnFuzion3D.com> wrote:

Hi All, wanted to jump in here and offer EnFuzion as another option/solution to

render farm management. It?s 100% scalable, written in C, native OS support,

in the commercial marketplace for 12+ years, integrated with Maya/Max/XSI and

AE ? launch jobs from the app to farm, also templates for most of the other 3D apps,

no scripting required, works out of the box, installs easily, easy to manage.

?

Our only problem no one know about us?best kept secret, we are trying

to change this.? I admit I am biased..J

?

Mike

?

Mike Duffy

+ 1 (714) 960 5229

http://www.enfuzion3d.com

?

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Dany Brouillette
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:35 AM
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: Render management software

?

Hi,

I saw Muster in list, it's a really good product for SMALL shop (less than 40 nodes) ...? If you put too much render node on it, your start to have some communication problems between the manager and the nodes, and then you need to tweak the app ...? Reboot the manager, etc ...? Was 122 nodes, we saw the problem happen at 50 nodes.

Maybe the problem is solve by now, I had this experience 2 years ago.? We had to find another solution, we tried RUSH, and we never had to deal with this kind of network problems.

Rush is awesome, flexible, and Greg is giving REALLY GOOD/NICE/INFORMATIVE support.

Salut !
Dan !

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Response from Paul Simpson @ April 27, 2010, 11:50 a.m.
check out the sun grid engine. was using qube last year on a feature - and moved to the grid and never looked back. you'll need to write some glue - but thats what the students are for? would be a good pipeline task for them... On 27 April 2010 11:22, Rak, Paul wrote: > Hi. > > > > As I?ve previously here, we are currently a Qube! site. Now, Qube does > everything we want it to, but bearing in mind the current economic climate > here in the UK (bad), the education sector in particular (dire), and the > price of Qube licenses (desperate), ?I now feel it necessary to explore > other options.. > > > > Here?s a brief overview of our requirements: > > > > -Job submission from Windows Vista or Windows 7 client machines. > > -In-app job submission would be nice, but not essential. > > -Support for 3dsmax 2010, ?XSI 2010, and Maya 2010. > > -Worker software must run on Linux (XSI/Maya) and Windows (3dsmax). ?(I?d > really love to lose 3dsmax..) > > -Windows Active Directory authentication. > > -Our worker machines are rackmount multi-processor/multi-core dedicated > render machines with huge RAM and disks. > > -The client machines are not used for rendering. > > -I?d prefer as much as possible of the system to live on Linux. The less > Windows, the better! > > -Cheaper than Qube! > > > > (background info: a few years ago, I trialled all the available systems > Rush/Deadline/Muster etc, so I am familiar with what was available THEN) > > > > Suggestions, please? > > > > Paul Rak > > > > > > > > > > From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com > [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On > Behalf Of Rak, Paul > Sent: 30 March 2010 09:50 > To: 'discuss@studiosysadmins.com' > Subject: RE: Render management software > > > > Qube?s had in-application submission plug-ins for years. It was one of the > reasons I originally selected it. > > These days, the plug-ins look just the same as the QUBEGUI submission forms. > > > > > > > > From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com > [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On > Behalf Of Savvas > Sent: 29 March 2010 23:38 > To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com > Subject: Re: Render management software > > > > We have an enfuzion installation at astral media in Toronto! Works great. > Enfusion also has sripts written for most of the commonly used applications > like max, Maya, after effects so users can submit their job within the > applications. > > > > Great work with cloud computing if we need it! > > Savvas Apatsidis > > IC Technology > > P.416.869.0001 > > C.416.919.6688 > > support@ictech.ca > > On Mar 29, 2010, at 4:50 PM, "Mike Duffy | EnFuzion3D" > wrote: > > Hi All, wanted to jump in here and offer EnFuzion as another option/solution > to > > render farm management. It?s 100% scalable, written in C, native OS support, > > in the commercial marketplace for 12+ years, integrated with Maya/Max/XSI > and > > AE ? launch jobs from the app to farm, also templates for most of the other > 3D apps, > > no scripting required, works out of the box, installs easily, easy to > manage. > > > > Our only problem no one know about us?best kept secret, we are trying > > to change this.? I admit I am biased..J > > > > Mike > > > > Mike Duffy > > + 1 (714) 960 5229 > > http://www.enfuzion3d.com > > > > From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com > [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@mailman.studiosysadmins.com] On > Behalf Of Dany Brouillette > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:35 AM > To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com > Subject: Re: Render management software > > > > Hi, > > I saw Muster in list, it's a really good product for SMALL shop (less than > 40 nodes) ...? If you put too much render node on it, your start to have > some communication problems between the manager and the nodes, and then you > need to tweak the app ...? Reboot the manager, etc ...? Was 122 nodes, we > saw the problem happen at 50 nodes. > > Maybe the problem is solve by now, I had this experience 2 years ago.? We > had to find another solution, we tried RUSH, and we never had to deal with > this kind of network problems. > > Rush is awesome, flexible, and Greg is giving REALLY GOOD/NICE/INFORMATIVE > support. > > Salut ! > Dan ! > > _______________________________________________ > StudioSysAdmins-Discuss mailing list > StudioSysAdmins-Discuss@mailman.studiosysadmins.com > > http://mailman.studiosysadmins.com/mailman/listinfo/studiosysadmins-discuss > > _______________________________________________ > StudioSysAdmins-Discuss mailing list > StudioSysAdmins-Discuss@studiosysadmins.com > http://mailman.studiosysadmins.com/mailman/listinfo/studiosysadmins-discuss > > _______________________________________________ StudioSysAdmins-Discuss mailing list StudioSysAdmins-Discuss@studiosysadmins.com http://mailman.studiosysadmins.com/mailman/listinfo/studiosysadmins-discuss

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Response from Fabrice Altman @ April 27, 2010, 6:40 a.m.

Hi,

 

Big fans of Royal Render here :

http://www.royalrender.de/cms/

 

Although I not tried on Linux, I gather it is as good as on Win.

We only work in Softimage and AE, but all apps use same submission system.

Also support is very good... close to perfect....

 

F.

 

 

 

 


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Response from Paul Rak @ April 27, 2010, 6:40 a.m.

Thanks, I ll have a look into that one.

Enfuzion3d currently looking interesting..

 

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Fabrice Altman
Sent: 27 April 2010 11:36
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Render Management Software / Bang per buck?

 

Hi,

 

Big fans of Royal Render here :

http://www.royalrender.de/cms/

 

Although I not tried on Linux, I gather it is as good as on Win.

We only work in Softimage and AE, but all apps use same submission system.

Also support is very good... close to perfect....

 

F.

 

 

 

 


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