+ 1 for Adder.

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Ryan de'Caneva

Systems Engineer | ILLUMINATION
2230 Broadway | Santa Monica, CA 90404

From: <studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com> on behalf of Zorion Terrell <Zorion.Terrell@dhxmedia.com>
Reply-To: "studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 11:01 AM
To: "studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com" <studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com>
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Displayport extenders for Flame Workstations

For just pure KVM (display-port) Extenders we use AdderLinks https://www.adder.com/en/kvm-solutions/extenders

The XD522 can do 4K: https://www.adder.com/en/kvm-solutions/adderlink-xd522

They work really well, have never seen any sort of lag or quality issues.

Zorion Terrell

IT Manager | DHX Studios

e: zorion.terrell@dhxmedia.com

t: 604-684-2363 | m: 604-562-5148

380 West 5th Ave

Vancouver, BC Canada V5Y 1J5

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois Panisset
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:25 PM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Displayport extenders for Flame Workstations

We're using Teradici for our Flames, it works OK, but with caveats:

- there's perceptible lag on the tablet, "speed demon" artists will notice

- the host software interacts with the X server and window manager in weird ways, especially with dual monitors

- no solution support for greater than dual link DVI (2560x1600) monitors

But being able to use your standard Ethernet infrastructure is great, and being able to route "any system to any Zero client" across your facility is a big win.

I believe that when Autodesk was still selling systems they were using Avenview DisplayPort extenders to support 4K monitors:

https://www.avenview.com/av-extenders-c-1261/displayport-c-1261_1271/4k-displayport-extender-over-fiber-optic-cable-p-1638.html

The 40m cable is an eye watering $1,600 at B&H:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1238240-REG/avenview_fo_dp4k_40_mm_4k_displayport_extender_over.html

and you still need to supply a separate USB extender.

JF

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 11:56 PM, julian firminger <justdigitalfilm@gmail.com> wrote:

Tommy,

 

ThinkLogical are the undisputed heavyweights.  They're also astoundingly expensive.  You'll cry comparing Gefen with TL prices.  We have an extensive TL environment and it's one of the most solid things we have.  (USB3 did take a while and gee they're expensive).

 

You could also look at IHSE, we trialed, pretty good, not quite TL and not quite as expensive either.  But almost.

Adder tech are also in the same conversation.  They're a fair bit cheaper and a fair bit shittier than TL.  But a step up from Gefen.  

G&D were another one I looked at at IBC but did not trial.  Looked on par with IHSE.  

 

Or as was mentioned, ditch KVM and go VDI instead.  Teradici are good and not too expensive.  We use VMware Horizon + nVidia GRID, which is extremely good and very expensive.  Unless you have a real need for an actual KVM for some reason, as in the need for a matrix switch or 100% guarentee's of specific image characteristics at the remote end, KVM is hardly worth it these days.  

 

 

 

Julian Firminger

Senior Systems Administrator

United Broadcast Facilities

Amsterdam, The Netherlands

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 6:06 AM, maciek <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Think Logical was the best answer to kvm over fiber. At this point its cheaper to go with a teradici host card and a zeroclient.

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

 

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For just pure KVM (display-port) Extenders we use AdderLinks https://www.adder.com/en/kvm-solutions/extenders

The XD522 can do 4K: https://www.adder.com/en/kvm-solutions/adderlink-xd522

They work really well, have never seen any sort of lag or quality issues.

Zorion Terrell

IT Manager | DHX Studios

e: zorion.terrell@dhxmedia.com

t: 604-684-2363 | m: 604-562-5148

380 West 5th Ave

Vancouver, BC Canada V5Y 1J5

From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois Panisset
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 7:25 PM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Displayport extenders for Flame Workstations

We're using Teradici for our Flames, it works OK, but with caveats:

- there's perceptible lag on the tablet, "speed demon" artists will notice

- the host software interacts with the X server and window manager in weird ways, especially with dual monitors

- no solution support for greater than dual link DVI (2560x1600) monitors

But being able to use your standard Ethernet infrastructure is great, and being able to route "any system to any Zero client" across your facility is a big win.

I believe that when Autodesk was still selling systems they were using Avenview DisplayPort extenders to support 4K monitors:

https://www.avenview.com/av-extenders-c-1261/displayport-c-1261_1271/4k-displayport-extender-over-fiber-optic-cable-p-1638.html

The 40m cable is an eye watering $1,600 at B&H:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1238240-REG/avenview_fo_dp4k_40_mm_4k_displayport_extender_over.html

and you still need to supply a separate USB extender.

JF

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 11:56 PM, julian firminger <justdigitalfilm@gmail.com> wrote:

Tommy,

 

ThinkLogical are the undisputed heavyweights.  They're also astoundingly expensive.  You'll cry comparing Gefen with TL prices.  We have an extensive TL environment and it's one of the most solid things we have.  (USB3 did take a while and gee they're expensive).

 

You could also look at IHSE, we trialed, pretty good, not quite TL and not quite as expensive either.  But almost.

Adder tech are also in the same conversation.  They're a fair bit cheaper and a fair bit shittier than TL.  But a step up from Gefen.  

G&D were another one I looked at at IBC but did not trial.  Looked on par with IHSE.  

 

Or as was mentioned, ditch KVM and go VDI instead.  Teradici are good and not too expensive.  We use VMware Horizon + nVidia GRID, which is extremely good and very expensive.  Unless you have a real need for an actual KVM for some reason, as in the need for a matrix switch or 100% guarentee's of specific image characteristics at the remote end, KVM is hardly worth it these days.  

 

 

 

Julian Firminger

Senior Systems Administrator

United Broadcast Facilities

Amsterdam, The Netherlands

 

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 6:06 AM, maciek <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Think Logical was the best answer to kvm over fiber. At this point its cheaper to go with a teradici host card and a zeroclient.

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

 

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

Tommy,
ThinkLogical are the undisputed heavyweights. They're also astoundingly expensive. You'll cry comparing Gefen with TL prices. We have an extensive TL environment and it's one of the most solid things we have. (USB3 did take a while and gee they're expensive).
You could also look at IHSE, we trialed, pretty good, not quite TL and not quite as expensive either. But almost.Adder tech are also in the same conversation. They're a fair bit cheaper and a fair bit shittier than TL. But a step up from Gefen.G&D were another one I looked at at IBC but did not trial. Looked on par with IHSE.
Or as was mentioned, ditch KVM and go VDI instead. Teradici are good and not too expensive. We use VMware Horizon + nVidia GRID, which is extremely good and very expensive. Unless you have a real need for an actual KVM for some reason, as in the need for a matrix switch or 100% guarentee's of specific image characteristics at the remote end, KVM is hardly worth it these days.

Julian Firminger

Senior Systems AdministratorUnited Broadcast FacilitiesAmsterdam, The Netherlands

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 6:06 AM, maciek <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Think Logical was the best answer to kvm over fiber. At this point its cheaper to go with a teradici host card and a zeroclient.

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

Julian Firminger

Think Logical was the best answer to kvm over fiber. At this point its cheaper to go with a teradici host card and a zeroclient.

To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

Think Logical was the best answer to kvm over fiber. At this point it’s cheaper to go with a teradici host card and a zeroclient.

Think Logical was the best answer to kvm over fiber. At this point it’s cheaper to go with a teradici host card and a zeroclient.