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Thunderbolt Card for a Linux box.. Is that even an option
posted by Greg Dickie  on Nov. 14, 2017, 8:05 p.m. (9 days ago)
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Hey Tommy,
We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation?

Thanks,
-tommy


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Response from Michael Oliver @ Nov. 17, 2017, 2:45 p.m.
Manual says only Windows is supported but may be out of date.https://www.supermicro.com/manuals/other/AOC-TBT-DSL5320.pdf

Check the following though:- What flavor of Linux? Make sure it's something on the newer end (ie kernel > 3.17 like CentOS 7.2)- Check the bios and ensure thunderbolt is turned on (it's disabled by default)
- Make sure you connected the GPIO cable- The addon card must be installed in the PCIe slot that is connected to the PCH, or your AOC will not work. Check your mb manual to ensure it's in the correct slot
As a side note I know people are successfully using the HP Z line workstations, latest bios, with Flame 2018 and the latest DKU to mount HFS+ thunderbolt drives
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
I had it kind of working in Fedora. Enterprisey stuff not so much.

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On Nov 14, 2017, at 22:01, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah didn't know these SM motherboards had Thunderbolt, good to know. But as Ken hinted at, TB on Linux may very well be uncharted territory.

Depending on the distribution you are running, you may need to update the Thunderbolt bits:

https://01.org/thunderbolt-sw/overview

It all sounds a bit gruesome...

JF




On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Ken Spickler <ken.spickler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hardware support, yes, but what about Linux support? Ive only seen it work on Mac and Windows but dont know anyone using TB on Linux (yet).

Ken SpicklerSent from iPhone. Srry for tpos.

On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

The HP Z workstations have had a option for a Thunderbolt add-in card for a while. The Z{4,6,8}40 machines support Thunderbolt 2:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=6254963

The Z2/4/6/8 machines will support Thunderbolt 3, with the card supposed to be available in 2018:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c05527763

As a general rule, you can't just add a Thunderbolt PCIe adapter to any old motherboard via a PCIe adapter, it has to be a built-in function of the motherboard. The Thunderbolt propaganda site has a list of Thunderbolt equipped systems which seems reasonable up to date:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/consumer/





On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
Hey Tommy,
We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation?

Thanks,
-tommy


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Response from Greg Dickie @ Nov. 14, 2017, 10:25 p.m.
I had it kind of working in Fedora. Enterprisey stuff not so much. 

--Greg Dickiejust a guy514-983-5400
On Nov 14, 2017, at 22:01, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah didn't know these SM motherboards had Thunderbolt, good to know. But as Ken hinted at, TB on Linux may very well be uncharted territory.

Depending on the distribution you are running, you may need to update the Thunderbolt bits:

https://01.org/thunderbolt-sw/overview

It all sounds a bit gruesome...

JF




On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Ken Spickler <ken.spickler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hardware support, yes, but what about Linux support? Ive only seen it work on Mac and Windows but dont know anyone using TB on Linux (yet).

Ken SpicklerSent from iPhone. Srry for tpos.

On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

The HP Z workstations have had a option for a Thunderbolt add-in card for a while. The Z{4,6,8}40 machines support Thunderbolt 2:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=6254963

The Z2/4/6/8 machines will support Thunderbolt 3, with the card supposed to be available in 2018:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c05527763

As a general rule, you can't just add a Thunderbolt PCIe adapter to any old motherboard via a PCIe adapter, it has to be a built-in function of the motherboard. The Thunderbolt propaganda site has a list of Thunderbolt equipped systems which seems reasonable up to date:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/consumer/





On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
Hey Tommy,
   We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation? 

Thanks,
-tommy


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Response from Jean-Francois Panisset @ Nov. 14, 2017, 10:05 p.m.
Ah didn't know these SM motherboards had Thunderbolt, good to know. But as Ken hinted at, TB on Linux may very well be uncharted territory.

Depending on the distribution you are running, you may need to update the Thunderbolt bits:

https://01.org/thunderbolt-sw/overview

It all sounds a bit gruesome...

JF




On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Ken Spickler <ken.spickler@gmail.com> wrote:
Hardware support, yes, but what about Linux support? Ive only seen it work on Mac and Windows but dont know anyone using TB on Linux (yet).

Ken SpicklerSent from iPhone. Srry for tpos.

On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

The HP Z workstations have had a option for a Thunderbolt add-in card for a while. The Z{4,6,8}40 machines support Thunderbolt 2:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=6254963

The Z2/4/6/8 machines will support Thunderbolt 3, with the card supposed to be available in 2018:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c05527763

As a general rule, you can't just add a Thunderbolt PCIe adapter to any old motherboard via a PCIe adapter, it has to be a built-in function of the motherboard. The Thunderbolt propaganda site has a list of Thunderbolt equipped systems which seems reasonable up to date:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/consumer/





On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
Hey Tommy,
We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation?

Thanks,
-tommy


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Response from Ken Spickler @ Nov. 14, 2017, 9:55 p.m.
Hardware support, yes, but what about Linux support? Ive only seen it work on Mac and Windows but dont know anyone using TB on Linux (yet).

Ken SpicklerSent from iPhone. Srry for tpos.
On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

The HP Z workstations have had a option for a Thunderbolt add-in card for a while. The Z{4,6,8}40 machines support Thunderbolt 2:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=6254963

The Z2/4/6/8 machines will support Thunderbolt 3, with the card supposed to be available in 2018:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c05527763

As a general rule, you can't just add a Thunderbolt PCIe adapter to any old motherboard via a PCIe adapter, it has to be a built-in function of the motherboard. The Thunderbolt propaganda site has a list of Thunderbolt equipped systems which seems reasonable up to date:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/consumer/





On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
Hey Tommy,
   We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation? 

Thanks,
-tommy


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Response from Tommy Asbee @ Nov. 14, 2017, 8:45 p.m.
Hi JF!

I was trying in a supermicro with a X10DAi motherboard. https://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/Thunderbolt.cfm

I also bought the kit for the HP Z840 as well but haven't installed that in the Z840 yet.

-Tommy


On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:33 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:
The HP Z workstations have had a option for a Thunderbolt add-in card for a while. The Z{4,6,8}40 machines support Thunderbolt 2:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=6254963

The Z2/4/6/8 machines will support Thunderbolt 3, with the card supposed to be available in 2018:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c05527763

As a general rule, you can't just add a Thunderbolt PCIe adapter to any old motherboard via a PCIe adapter, it has to be a built-in function of the motherboard. The Thunderbolt propaganda site has a list of Thunderbolt equipped systems which seems reasonable up to date:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/consumer/





On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
Hey Tommy,
We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation?

Thanks,
-tommy


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Response from Jean-Francois Panisset @ Nov. 14, 2017, 8:35 p.m.
The HP Z workstations have had a option for a Thunderbolt add-in card for a while. The Z{4,6,8}40 machines support Thunderbolt 2:

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/products/oas/product-detail.html?oid=6254963

The Z2/4/6/8 machines will support Thunderbolt 3, with the card supposed to be available in 2018:

http://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c05527763

As a general rule, you can't just add a Thunderbolt PCIe adapter to any old motherboard via a PCIe adapter, it has to be a built-in function of the motherboard. The Thunderbolt propaganda site has a list of Thunderbolt equipped systems which seems reasonable up to date:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/consumer/





On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Greg Dickie <greg@justaguy.ca> wrote:
Hey Tommy,
We did some research on that. Looks like you can get TB3 on select motherboards (and Intel NUCs) but that's it. Furthermore we tried the ASUS X99 and the Intel NUC6I7 and it's not exactly working smoothly. Never succeeded with TB2. Not sure if I'm just stupid or it's really only working on MACs.
Greg
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Tommy Asbee <tommy@a52.com> wrote:
Hey All!

Sorry if this is a dumb question....

Is it possible to get a Thunderbolt Card to work on a linux workstation?

Thanks,
-tommy


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