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posted by Matt Sherman  on Oct. 9, 2015, 10:13 a.m. (8 years, 1 month, 21 days ago)
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Anyone out there in a large animation/design company working in video and using an Asset Management System (DAM/MAM) to manage assets? Or are people still working of local storage or central server using simple shared folders? We're looking at adopting a MAM but most of them seem to lend themselves more to the print (Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop) world. When you start asking about managing animation projects in C4D, AfterEffects the conversation always gets awkward. Anyone care to post their workflow for managing their collective assets when working in a shared environment?

Mathew.


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Response from Jeff Yana @ Oct. 12, 2015, 1:21 a.m.

I would be curious to know if anyone is currently using the Front Porch/Oracle DIVA solution and what their experience has been like. I am also curious to know how it compares to products like F-Track. My understanding is that F-Track's asset management capabilities are better than Shotgun's. Is that mostly true?

Thanks!


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Response from Zorion Terrell @ Oct. 9, 2015, 2:05 p.m.

Weve got a mish-mash of custom built MAM solutions and a Shotgun Deployment is being worked on right now.

Latest version of ftrack looks to do proper file management (https://www.ftrack.com/2015/09/ftrack-3-3-smart-content-management.html)

-          Theyre a smaller company but when we were seriously evaluating them they sent out their CTO (Martin) to meet with us for a few days to find out how we work to see if the fit would work. Martin was very honest about their products abilities and could compare to others because he used to work for shotgun and as worked at other VFX companies. Worth having a chat with for sure!

 

 

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my understanding is art for sure could use the MAM.   I think it is the intention here for that department to start using it (allows for searches and all that fun meta data stuffs),  and the audio guys too.   Might want to look into it,  may be able to leverage an existing investment which the ownership always enjoys.

Take care Mathew,

greg

 

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Mathew Sherman <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Thanks Greg, we alo use ISIS Interplay for MAM/PAM in the Avid editing world but we have nothing for the graphic designers who are just saving their 100's of TB on network shared folders. I've seen Front Porch also. Still curios what other are using.


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Response from Greg Whynott @ Oct. 9, 2015, 2:05 p.m.
Hi Roy,

While I could be wrong... New to the MAM world. Your last paragraph seems like how it should happen.

MAM is for media asset storage etc, _finished_ products. So if you want to open a project in MAM and make changes to it, that becomes a new asset. you would have to update the archive with this new asset. But sometimes you don't want to as it was a custom request. Maybe I got it horribly wrong, but seems to make sense to me. For us if we work on an asset from MAM, it is moved to the PAM system first (via an MPI server, which is kinda sad seeing both these products are Avid's, they make the customer buy more licenses and hardware to re warp their own files!!!!! sad, lame and lazy - from a noob's perspective.) , where it is opened up within Media Composer, et el.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Roy Burns <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

We use Reach Engine by Level's Beyond. It was built initially to really shine with Adobe Premiere, having an integrated panel in Premiere means never leaving the app but having the ability to search and pull in assets to a sequence without making multiple copies for each project. It does not solve the concept of "Project Sharing" and or "Multiple people editing a project simultanously" for that, you'd be looking to extend functionality with Adobe Anywhere's Collaboration Hub.

Reach Engine recently added additional functionality we are in the process of on-boarding to our motion graphics team (After Effects, C4D, Photoshop), which is similar functionality to the Adobe Premiere Panel. They call it "Access" it's a desktop app that allows for search of the MAM, it supports drag and drop and thus is supported with any app that supports drag and drop. Find a piece of footage you need in C4D, drag it in, find a piece of vector art you need in Illustrator? drag it in. The pathing is maintained. All assets in our MAM are tagged with appropriate metadata and are in a repository. When you drag in an asset you don't have to know or care where the file actually sits.

Our biggest hurdle so far with this is how to deal with assets that the MAM is not aware of. I.E. If we take audio and roundtrip it from Premiere to Audtion and back it generates a new file that is not in the MAM. We are working with Adobe and Levels on how to make Reach Engine aware of all files not presently in the MAM.

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Response from Greg Whynott @ Oct. 9, 2015, 1:55 p.m.
my understanding is art for sure could use the MAM. I think it is the intention here for that department to start using it (allows for searches and all that fun meta data stuffs), and the audio guys too. Might want to look into it, may be able to leverage an existing investment which the ownership always enjoys.


Take care Mathew,
greg



On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Mathew Sherman <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Thanks Greg, we alo use ISIS Interplay for MAM/PAM in the Avid editing world but we have nothing for the graphic designers who are just saving their 100's of TB on network shared folders. I've seen Front Porch also. Still curios what other are using.


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Response from Roy Burns @ Oct. 9, 2015, 11:55 a.m.

We use Reach Engine by Level's Beyond. It was built initially to really shine with Adobe Premiere, having an integrated panel in Premiere means never leaving the app but having the ability to search and pull in assets to a sequence without making multiple copies for each project. It does not solve the concept of "Project Sharing" and or "Multiple people editing a project simultanously" for that, you'd be looking to extend functionality with Adobe Anywhere's Collaboration Hub.

Reach Engine recently added additional functionality we are in the process of on-boarding to our motion graphics team (After Effects, C4D, Photoshop), which is similar functionality to the Adobe Premiere Panel. They call it "Access" it's a desktop app that allows for search of the MAM, it supports drag and drop and thus is supported with any app that supports drag and drop. Find a piece of footage you need in C4D, drag it in, find a piece of vector art you need in Illustrator? drag it in. The pathing is maintained. All assets in our MAM are tagged with appropriate metadata and are in a repository. When you drag in an asset you don't have to know or care where the file actually sits.

Our biggest hurdle so far with this is how to deal with assets that the MAM is not aware of. I.E. If we take audio and roundtrip it from Premiere to Audtion and back it generates a new file that is not in the MAM. We are working with Adobe and Levels on how to make Reach Engine aware of all files not presently in the MAM. 

-Roy


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Response from Matt Sherman @ Oct. 9, 2015, 11:46 a.m.

Thanks Greg, we alo use ISIS Interplay for MAM/PAM in the Avid editing world but we have nothing for the graphic designers who are just saving their 100's of TB on network shared folders. I've seen Front Porch also. Still curios what other are using.


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Response from Greg Whynott @ Oct. 9, 2015, 11:35 a.m.
Front Porch by Oracle is a good one I hear. We use Avid MAM/PAM here, but that is a bit of an expensive solution. We archive with SGL which allows for policy based archiving.

thanks much,
greg



On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:56 AM, julian firminger <justdigitalfilm@gmail.com> wrote:
Shotgun or Tactic are the usual suspects (others on this list are better placed to comment on them)
Do you need to manage video assets as well?

Julian Firminger

Snr. Systems Administrator,United Broadcast FacilitiesAmsterdam, The Netherlands

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Mathew Sherman <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Anyone out there in a large animation/design company working in video and using an Asset Management System (DAM/MAM) to manage assets? Or are people still working of local storage or central server using simple shared folders? We're looking at adopting a MAM but most of them seem to lend themselves more to the print (Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop) world. When you start asking about managing animation projects in C4D, AfterEffects the conversation always gets awkward. Anyone care to post their workflow for managing their collective assets when working in a shared environment?

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Response from Julian Firminger @ Oct. 9, 2015, 11 a.m.
Shotgun or Tactic are the usual suspects (others on this list are better placed to comment on them)
Do you need to manage video assets as well?

Julian Firminger

Snr. Systems Administrator,United Broadcast FacilitiesAmsterdam, The Netherlands

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Mathew Sherman <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

Anyone out there in a large animation/design company working in video and using an Asset Management System (DAM/MAM) to manage assets? Or are people still working of local storage or central server using simple shared folders? We're looking at adopting a MAM but most of them seem to lend themselves more to the print (Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop) world. When you start asking about managing animation projects in C4D, AfterEffects the conversation always gets awkward. Anyone care to post their workflow for managing their collective assets when working in a shared environment?

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