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posted by Dan Young  on May 18, 2015, 3:20 p.m. (3 years, 6 months, 24 days ago)
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Hi, What are you using to get physical devices wired into your VM clusters? Examples; - Dongles for licensing - Temperature monitoring peripherals - Other USB nonsense? Trying to do my best to avoid buying anything, but it would seem that if it's outside of the ability of VMWare (which I use alot, but am nowhere near a master of) - that it would be achievable with something like a network-attached USB hub? I've seen lots of the USB hubs, but they all seem to only work for Windows VMs, of which I have nearly none. This solution must be linux-capable. Hardware is considered but not ideal. Thanks! DY To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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Response from Jean-Francois Panisset @ May 20, 2015, 11:10 a.m.
I love that there's a 12 page PDF white paper just to explain licensing for vSphere... Because obviously we have a staff of full-time VMWare licensing specialists (they sit in the office between the office for our staff our full-time Microsoft licensing specialists and the one with our full-time Adobe licensing specialists). There, I made this thread about licensing, apparently I'm obsessed.

JF


On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Ben De Luca <bdeluca@gmail.com> wrote:
but when the host dies, then the license is lost. not really a cluster.

On 20 May 2015 at 01:50, Peter Smith <petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com> wrote:
> Dunno, it's been in there since 4.blah ?
>
> What revision are you sat in front of?
> --
>
> Pete Smith
>
> Engineer
>
> Smoke & Mirrors
>
> d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511
>
> m: +44 (0)7738 067455
>
> e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com
>
> t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000
>
> www.smoke-mirrors.com
>
> 1-5 Poland St
>
> London
>
> W1F 8PR
>
> ________________________________
> From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com
> [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young
> [dyoung@tippett.com]
> Sent: 19 May 2015 18:44
>
> To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs
>
> From what version onward, though?
>
> Good news, everyone.
>
> DY
>
> On 05/19/2015 10:42 AM, Peter Smith wrote:
>
> Essentials gives you the USB option. Plug your USB dongle into the host, and
> in the guest settings, add host USB item. Seemples.
> --
>
> Pete Smith
>
> Engineer
>
> Smoke & Mirrors
>
> d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511
>
> m: +44 (0)7738 067455
>
> e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com
>
> t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000
>
> www.smoke-mirrors.com
>
> 1-5 Poland St
>
> London
>
> W1F 8PR
>
> ________________________________
> From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com
> [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young
> [dyoung@tippett.com]
> Sent: 19 May 2015 16:50
> To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs
>
> Presently we have single hosts running vsphere essentials - we'll be moving
> to a 3-node cluster with dedicated storage (compellent) soon. It will
> certainly have USB ports - can't seem to find much about pass-through
> though.
>
> DY
>
> On 05/19/2015 08:36 AM, Peter Smith wrote:
>
>
> Well, Oracle 6.5 _is_ RHEL, I believe, so you should be fine.
>
> USB cluster(fuck)ing? I was just wondering whether your VMWare cluster has
> USB ports?
>
> What's your set up?
> --
>
> Pete Smith
>
> Engineer
>
> Smoke & Mirrors
>
> d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511
>
> m: +44 (0)7738 067455
>
> e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com
>
> t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000
>
> www.smoke-mirrors.com
>
> 1-5 Poland St
>
> London
>
> W1F 8PR
>
> ________________________________
> From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com
> [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young
> [dyoung@tippett.com]
> Sent: 19 May 2015 16:20
> To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs
>
> "and Linux (64-Bit; Ubuntu 12.4.x LTS, Ubuntu 14.04.x LTS, Oracle Linux 6.5)
> "
>
> SOB - I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have licservs
> and temperature monitors running Debian/not-RHEL but it's not great.
>
> Pete - explain more about USB cluster(fuck)ing? Is this is a feature of a
> more expensive VMWare that I don't have?
>
> DY
>
> On 05/19/2015 07:50 AM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>
> http://www.seh-technology.com/products/usb-device-servers/myutn-250.html
>
>
> Have you checked this out?
>
> -s
>
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Todd Smith <todd@sohovfx.com> wrote:
>
> Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then .. bloody stupid license
> servers.
>
> Todd Smith
> Head of Information Technology
>
> soho vfx |
> 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8
> office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> Thanks Todd,
>
> I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was
> the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was
> requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....
>
> DY
>
> On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote:
>
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Response from Ben De Luca @ May 20, 2015, 11:05 a.m.
but when the host dies, then the license is lost. not really a cluster. On 20 May 2015 at 01:50, Peter Smith wrote: > Dunno, it's been in there since 4.blah ? > > What revision are you sat in front of? > -- > > Pete Smith > > Engineer > > Smoke & Mirrors > > d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511 > > m: +44 (0)7738 067455 > > e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com > > t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000 > > www.smoke-mirrors.com > > 1-5 Poland St > > London > > W1F 8PR > > ________________________________ > From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com > [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young > [dyoung@tippett.com] > Sent: 19 May 2015 18:44 > > To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com > Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs > > From what version onward, though? > > Good news, everyone. > > DY > > On 05/19/2015 10:42 AM, Peter Smith wrote: > > Essentials gives you the USB option. Plug your USB dongle into the host, and > in the guest settings, add host USB item. Seemples. > -- > > Pete Smith > > Engineer > > Smoke & Mirrors > > d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511 > > m: +44 (0)7738 067455 > > e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com > > t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000 > > www.smoke-mirrors.com > > 1-5 Poland St > > London > > W1F 8PR > > ________________________________ > From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com > [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young > [dyoung@tippett.com] > Sent: 19 May 2015 16:50 > To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com > Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs > > Presently we have single hosts running vsphere essentials - we'll be moving > to a 3-node cluster with dedicated storage (compellent) soon. It will > certainly have USB ports - can't seem to find much about pass-through > though. > > DY > > On 05/19/2015 08:36 AM, Peter Smith wrote: > > > Well, Oracle 6.5 _is_ RHEL, I believe, so you should be fine. > > USB cluster(fuck)ing? I was just wondering whether your VMWare cluster has > USB ports? > > What's your set up? > -- > > Pete Smith > > Engineer > > Smoke & Mirrors > > d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511 > > m: +44 (0)7738 067455 > > e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com > > t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000 > > www.smoke-mirrors.com > > 1-5 Poland St > > London > > W1F 8PR > > ________________________________ > From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com > [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young > [dyoung@tippett.com] > Sent: 19 May 2015 16:20 > To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com > Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs > > "and Linux (64-Bit; Ubuntu 12.4.x LTS, Ubuntu 14.04.x LTS, Oracle Linux 6.5) > " > > SOB - I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have licservs > and temperature monitors running Debian/not-RHEL but it's not great. > > Pete - explain more about USB cluster(fuck)ing? Is this is a feature of a > more expensive VMWare that I don't have? > > DY > > On 05/19/2015 07:50 AM, Saker Klippsten wrote: > > http://www.seh-technology.com/products/usb-device-servers/myutn-250.html > > > Have you checked this out? > > -s > > > > > On May 19, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Todd Smith wrote: > > Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then .. bloody stupid license > servers. > > Todd Smith > Head of Information Technology > > soho vfx | > 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8 > office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com > > ________________________________ > > Thanks Todd, > > I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was > the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was > requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze.... > > DY > > On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote: > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe > > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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Response from Dan Young @ May 19, 2015, 1:45 p.m.
From what version onward, though?

Good news, everyone.

DY

On 05/19/2015 10:42 AM, Peter Smith wrote:
Essentials gives you the USB option. Plug your USB dongle into the host, and in the guest settings, add host USB item. Seemples.
--

Pete Smith

Engineer

Smoke & Mirrors

d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511

m: +44 (0)7738 067455

e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com

t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000

www.smoke-mirrors.com

1-5 Poland St

London

W1F 8PR


From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young [dyoung@tippett.com]
Sent: 19 May 2015 16:50
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs

Presently we have single hosts running vsphere essentials - we'll be moving to a 3-node cluster with dedicated storage (compellent) soon. It will certainly have USB ports - can't seem to find much about pass-through though.

DY

On 05/19/2015 08:36 AM, Peter Smith wrote:
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Well, Oracle 6.5 _is_ RHEL, I believe, so you should be fine.

USB cluster(fuck)ing? I was just wondering whether your VMWare cluster has USB ports?

What's your set up?
--

Pete Smith

Engineer

Smoke & Mirrors

d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511

m: +44 (0)7738 067455

e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com

t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000

www.smoke-mirrors.com

1-5 Poland St

London

W1F 8PR


From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young [dyoung@tippett.com]
Sent: 19 May 2015 16:20
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs

"and Linux (64-Bit; Ubuntu 12.4.x LTS, Ubuntu 14.04.x LTS, Oracle Linux 6.5) "

SOB - I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have licservs and temperature monitors running Debian/not-RHEL but it's not great.

Pete - explain more about USB cluster(fuck)ing? Is this is a feature of a more expensive VMWare that I don't have?

DY

On 05/19/2015 07:50 AM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
http://www.seh-technology.com/products/usb-device-servers/myutn-250.html

Have you checked this out?
-s



On May 19, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Todd Smith <todd@sohovfx.com> wrote:

Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then .. bloody stupid license servers.
Todd Smith Head of Information Technology
soho vfx| 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8 office:(416) 516-7863fax:(416) 516-9682web:sohovfx.com

Thanks Todd,

I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....

DY

On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote:


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Response from Dan Young @ May 19, 2015, 11:50 a.m.
Presently we have single hosts running vsphere essentials - we'll be moving to a 3-node cluster with dedicated storage (compellent) soon. It will certainly have USB ports - can't seem to find much about pass-through though.

DY

On 05/19/2015 08:36 AM, Peter Smith wrote:
P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}
Well, Oracle 6.5 _is_ RHEL, I believe, so you should be fine.

USB cluster(fuck)ing? I was just wondering whether your VMWare cluster has USB ports?

What's your set up?
--

Pete Smith

Engineer

Smoke & Mirrors

d: +44 (0)20 3206 6511

m: +44 (0)7738 067455

e: petersmith@smoke-mirrors.com

t: +44 (0)20 7468 1000

www.smoke-mirrors.com

1-5 Poland St

London

W1F 8PR


From: studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com [studiosysadmins-discuss-bounces@studiosysadmins.com] on behalf of Dan Young [dyoung@tippett.com]
Sent: 19 May 2015 16:20
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] USB to VMWare ESX VMs

"and Linux (64-Bit; Ubuntu 12.4.x LTS, Ubuntu 14.04.x LTS, Oracle Linux 6.5) "

SOB - I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have licservs and temperature monitors running Debian/not-RHEL but it's not great.

Pete - explain more about USB cluster(fuck)ing? Is this is a feature of a more expensive VMWare that I don't have?

DY

On 05/19/2015 07:50 AM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
http://www.seh-technology.com/products/usb-device-servers/myutn-250.html

Have you checked this out?
-s



On May 19, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Todd Smith <todd@sohovfx.com> wrote:

Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then .. bloody stupid license servers.
Todd Smith Head of Information Technology
soho vfx| 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8 office:(416) 516-7863fax:(416) 516-9682web:sohovfx.com

Thanks Todd,

I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....

DY

On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote:


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Response from Dan Young @ May 19, 2015, 11:20 a.m.
"and Linux (64-Bit; Ubuntu 12.4.x LTS, Ubuntu 14.04.x LTS, Oracle Linux 6.5) "

SOB - I guess it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have licservs and temperature monitors running Debian/not-RHEL but it's not great.

Pete - explain more about USB cluster(fuck)ing? Is this is a feature of a more expensive VMWare that I don't have?

DY

On 05/19/2015 07:50 AM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
http://www.seh-technology.com/products/usb-device-servers/myutn-250.html

Have you checked this out?
-s



On May 19, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Todd Smith <todd@sohovfx.com> wrote:

Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then .. bloody stupid license servers.
Todd Smith Head of Information Technology
soho vfx| 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8 office:(416) 516-7863fax:(416) 516-9682web:sohovfx.com

Thanks Todd,

I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....

DY

On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote:


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Response from Saker Klippsten @ May 19, 2015, 10:55 a.m.
http://www.seh-technology.com/products/usb-device-servers/myutn-250.html

Have you checked this out?
-s



On May 19, 2015, at 5:21 AM, Todd Smith <todd@sohovfx.com> wrote:

Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then ..  bloody stupid license servers.
Todd SmithHead of Information Technology
soho vfx | 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com

Thanks Todd,

I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....

DY

On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote:


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Response from Todd Smith @ May 19, 2015, 8:25 a.m.
Well I guess I'm returning my AnywhereUSB then ..  bloody stupid license servers.
Todd SmithHead of Information Technology
soho vfx | 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com

Thanks Todd,

I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....

DY

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Response from Dan Young @ May 18, 2015, 5:05 p.m.
Thanks Todd,

I've been told that anywhereUSB doesn't work under linux, though? This was the first thing I came across, I got super excited- and then found it was requiring drivers, and it only runs under windoze....

DY

On 05/18/2015 12:59 PM, Todd Smith wrote:
Just going through this myself with a SafeNet Sentinel USB key. Just ordered a AnywhereUSB per Saker's recommendation to me last year when I last looked at this issue.

http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb
This is actually a recommended solution per VMware.
Still disappointing that in this day and age we can't tackle this any other way, or that vendors are still trying to give out USB dongles for licensing but I digress, IIWII.
Cheers,
Todd Smith Head of Information Technology
soho vfx| 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8 office:(416) 516-7863fax:(416) 516-9682web:sohovfx.com

Hi,

What are you using to get physical devices wired into your VM clusters?

Examples;

- Dongles for licensing
- Temperature monitoring peripherals
- Other USB nonsense?

Trying to do my best to avoid buying anything, but it would seem that if
it's outside of the ability of VMWare (which I use alot, but am nowhere
near a master of) - that it would be achievable with something like a
network-attached USB hub?

I've seen lots of the USB hubs, but they all seem to only work for
Windows VMs, of which I have nearly none.

This solution must be linux-capable. Hardware is considered but not ideal.

Thanks!
DY
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Response from Todd Smith @ May 18, 2015, 4:05 p.m.
Just going through this myself with a SafeNet Sentinel USB key.  Just ordered a AnywhereUSB per Saker's recommendation to me last year when I last looked at this issue.

http://www.digi.com/products/usb/anywhereusb
This is actually a recommended solution per VMware.
Still disappointing that in this day and age we can't tackle this any other way, or that vendors are still trying to give out USB dongles for licensing but I digress, IIWII.
Cheers,
Todd SmithHead of Information Technology
soho vfx | 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com

Hi,

What are you using to get physical devices wired into your VM clusters?

Examples;

- Dongles for licensing
- Temperature monitoring peripherals
- Other USB nonsense?

Trying to do my best to avoid buying anything, but it would seem that if
it's outside of the ability of VMWare (which I use alot, but am nowhere
near a master of) - that it would be achievable with something like a
network-attached USB hub?

I've seen lots of the USB hubs, but they all seem to only work for
Windows VMs, of which I have nearly none.

This solution must be linux-capable. Hardware is considered but not ideal.

Thanks!
DY
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