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posted by Doug Meyer  on May 15, 2015, 3:55 p.m. (3 years, 6 months, 29 days ago)
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This can't be real.


On May 15, 2015, at 03:41 PM, Jeremy Lang <jeremy.lang@it4vfx.com> wrote:

We gather today to honor a company for achieving new levels of horrible with their licensing system.  By the power vested in me (by nobody) I hereby award the First Studio Sys Admin award for Bag O' Dicks Licensing to E-On Software.  
As many of you know, they've pursued this award for many years, innovating in agony until they've now all but perfected it!  
Early on they hard-coded the version number into their licensing server, guaranteeing that it would have to be upgraded every time their software was.  
As a bonus this would be a fresh install and all licenses would usually have to be imported back in, every upgrade.  
Then they *really* upped their game just a couple years ago by requiring you to *license* the license server.  Yeah, pay for the software that lets you use their software, that should've been their first award in this category.  
But now, the coup de grace, they've introduced something they call reservations in the latest (2015) version of their license server.  Keep in mind you get to (are forced to) *pay* for this "upgrade"!  
For Your Consideration:Once a user runs a license it is reserved to them.  Even after they close the application.  For a default of *3* days.  Until 3AM the evening of the last day.
E-On has generously decided that you can change this down to one day.
Oh, you want your paid-for *floating* license to actually FLOAT to a different user, like NOW you say...?  They have magnanimously allowed you to manually kill a reservation.  On the license server.  
Two minor points though (I swear Satan himself couldn't plan this better)... 
1) It takes 15 minutes or so for the license to release after you've manually killed it (it's OK, the artist didn't need it NOW).
2) Their documentation says you may only do this once per day per license.
As you might imagine I've inquired with E-On about these innovations in great depth.  I'm to understand they are a "feature" designed to guarantee an artist has a license when they need it (unless it's the license they were sharing with somebody else...).  Also that despite their documentation E-On may deign to allow me to kill certain licenses more than once per day.  They also point out that I could give users access to the license server to kill licenses themselves!  Thank you again E-On, I needed a hearty laugh!  
Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the very first winner of the Studio Sys Admins Bag O' Dicks Licensing award: E-On Software!
Behold:http://www.e-onsoftware.com/wiki/LicenseServer/index.php/Documentation/Additional_Information/License_Reservation



TL;DR: WARNING! E-ON Software (VUE and others) has a truly egregious licensing system, so bad that you should probably STRONGLY OBJECT to use of their software in critical production if you have the opportunity.  

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Jeremy M. Lang
it4vfx
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Response from Dave Young @ Nov. 25, 2018, 3:45 p.m.
I had a similar, horrificly bad marketing email come through my inbox from a different vendor this month. The guy even called me and couldn't explain his product to me.

Something is in the water.

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Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] The evolvement of traditional drives, sas, sata, to ssd, m.2, nvme, what is next .
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----- On Nov 25, 2018, at 12:27 PM, content <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:
The last two  years i have seen a lot of storage vendors pushing NVME upgrades or offering  explicitly  NVME storage. It appear that is

ZFS high performance NAS server for media an entertianment becoming the norm these days. We are living in the era of technology advancements, new hard  drives, controllers , network cards, cpus becoming faster, bigger, lower latency every day. That is all good and companies are integrating  those in their workflows, well at least the companies  that can afford it. What i have seen in the the real world is that such solutions are still not enough for a M&E average production. Let me explain my thoughts. If you spec out a full NVME solution is probably in the 200k+  range and you may   get 40TB usable. The system will be super fast  and will have no issues keeping up with the iops and bandwidth for your ever demanding workflow.  Now that you have the system in, you have to figure out to to deliver that performance to the workstation. Find network cards that works with tour OS and compatible drivers.  Use the available  open source protocols  like NFS, SMB and figure out to to optimize them,  or write your own agent/protocol to actually take advantage of that performance. Ok well some of you have that figure out, now you have to see how your NLE will utilize such performance  and how to you maintain that setup with the inevitable upgrades  like OS versions, and application version.

    What if i tell you that there is another way to get faster performance  than the NVME flash arrays at more affordable cost.     Well lets get a bit technical now. What is the fastest piece of hardware that access data in a computer? Is it the hard drive ? Is the CPU? Is it the bus (PCI slots) ? Is it the RAM? Which one is M&E industry  always in demand. Of course all those do matter in a traditional server but how do you get that performance? One piece of hardware that i have see not being utilize in the traditional  storage vendors is the RAM. Some of the hardware manufacturers will offer hardware controllers that  use some caching or they have some kind of cashing mechanism build in. Not large enough  to make a significant difference. They usually do not get into very details about how that works. You have to dig it up yourself.   RAM is the fastest  way to access data, large data, media and entertainment data. Load that  uncompressed movie into RAM, an average server these day can easily use 1TB of RAM. The challenge here is how to tell the filesystem and the OS to load that data into RAM. I have been working  with Solaris  ZFS for the last 5 years and no other OS/filesystem does it better  and more efficient. ZFS will load the most frequently accessed data in to RAM ARC. DDR4 at 2666MHz ECC low latency is utilized here. When the RAM is full the system will load data in the LARC which is the read cache. That is where the fast NVME drives  come handy. We used two 4TB Intel striped and we get 8TB read cache. I can tell you is quite amazing to see both of those RAM and READ CACHE max out on a production day when you have 60 edit bays hitting it. Lets do some quick math here, 1TB of RAM speed and 8TB of two NVME striped using PCI slots. I would say that is fast enough for a traditional  production workflow and also 9TB available  worth of media files ready to serve and any given time. I have posted some benchmarks ran a CLI  from a real production server  below so you can see some realistic numbers.    More over all the editing, compositing, finishing, motion graphics applications that are being developed are thirsty for ram. You can see it in system resources if you open  4K media  in your timeline. Somehow the application process sucks the entire ram available. They do that to load the data into ram for smoother playback. It does not matter how much ram you install, 64G, 124G, 256G  any modern release software will use it assuming that you have a heavy 4K timeline.        Here are some performance stats that we got from out latest  server ZFS-600 that we just put in production. These are results running CLI commands  not theoretical and accumulative bandwidth taken from data sheet products.    RAM sustainable bandwidth 197GB/sec  command line volume test run with dd   7.3GB/sec command line multithreaded using iozone 28GB/sec  that is upper case means Bytes. The full data sheet and server specs  of the ZFS-600 can be found of the here http://ittemple.com/products/  

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Response from Todd Smith @ Nov. 25, 2018, 3:30 p.m.
Please make it stop.
https://www.grammarly.com



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soho vfx | 40 Hanna Ave. Suite 403, Toronto, Ontario M6K 0C3
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----- On Nov 25, 2018, at 12:27 PM, content <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:
The last two  years i have seen a lot of storage vendors pushing NVME upgrades or offering  explicitly  NVME storage. It appear that is

ZFS high performance NAS server for media an entertianment becoming the norm these days. We are living in the era of technology advancements, new hard  drives, controllers , network cards, cpus becoming faster, bigger, lower latency every day. That is all good and companies are integrating  those in their workflows, well at least the companies  that can afford it. What i have seen in the the real world is that such solutions are still not enough for a M&E average production. Let me explain my thoughts. If you spec out a full NVME solution is probably in the 200k+  range and you may   get 40TB usable. The system will be super fast  and will have no issues keeping up with the iops and bandwidth for your ever demanding workflow.  Now that you have the system in, you have to figure out to to deliver that performance to the workstation. Find network cards that works with tour OS and compatible drivers.  Use the available  open source protocols  like NFS, SMB and figure out to to optimize them,  or write your own agent/protocol to actually take advantage of that performance. Ok well some of you have that figure out, now you have to see how your NLE will utilize such performance  and how to you maintain that setup with the inevitable upgrades  like OS versions, and application version.

    What if i tell you that there is another way to get faster performance  than the NVME flash arrays at more affordable cost.     Well lets get a bit technical now. What is the fastest piece of hardware that access data in a computer? Is it the hard drive ? Is the CPU? Is it the bus (PCI slots) ? Is it the RAM? Which one is M&E industry  always in demand. Of course all those do matter in a traditional server but how do you get that performance? One piece of hardware that i have see not being utilize in the traditional  storage vendors is the RAM. Some of the hardware manufacturers will offer hardware controllers that  use some caching or they have some kind of cashing mechanism build in. Not large enough  to make a significant difference. They usually do not get into very details about how that works. You have to dig it up yourself.   RAM is the fastest  way to access data, large data, media and entertainment data. Load that  uncompressed movie into RAM, an average server these day can easily use 1TB of RAM. The challenge here is how to tell the filesystem and the OS to load that data into RAM. I have been working  with Solaris  ZFS for the last 5 years and no other OS/filesystem does it better  and more efficient. ZFS will load the most frequently accessed data in to RAM ARC. DDR4 at 2666MHz ECC low latency is utilized here. When the RAM is full the system will load data in the LARC which is the read cache. That is where the fast NVME drives  come handy. We used two 4TB Intel striped and we get 8TB read cache. I can tell you is quite amazing to see both of those RAM and READ CACHE max out on a production day when you have 60 edit bays hitting it. Lets do some quick math here, 1TB of RAM speed and 8TB of two NVME striped using PCI slots. I would say that is fast enough for a traditional  production workflow and also 9TB available  worth of media files ready to serve and any given time. I have posted some benchmarks ran a CLI  from a real production server  below so you can see some realistic numbers.    More over all the editing, compositing, finishing, motion graphics applications that are being developed are thirsty for ram. You can see it in system resources if you open  4K media  in your timeline. Somehow the application process sucks the entire ram available. They do that to load the data into ram for smoother playback. It does not matter how much ram you install, 64G, 124G, 256G  any modern release software will use it assuming that you have a heavy 4K timeline.        Here are some performance stats that we got from out latest  server ZFS-600 that we just put in production. These are results running CLI commands  not theoretical and accumulative bandwidth taken from data sheet products.    RAM sustainable bandwidth 197GB/sec  command line volume test run with dd   7.3GB/sec command line multithreaded using iozone 28GB/sec  that is upper case means Bytes. The full data sheet and server specs  of the ZFS-600 can be found of the here http://ittemple.com/products/  

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Response from John Hickson @ July 21, 2017, 3:30 p.m.

Thanks everyone :) All good. :)

On 2017-07-21 15:00, Mike Owen wrote:

Sure, use coupon code: THINKBOX
On 21 July 2017 at 19:44, James Braid <jamesb@loreland.org> wrote:
On 21 July 2017 at 11:40, John Hickson <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:
>
> Hey a few people are still looking for free passes for the exhibition area at SIGGRAPH this year.
>
> Anyone still have active links available for registration?

Isotropix (Clarisse) have a free exhibits pass:
http://www.isotropix.com/siggraph-2017
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Response from Jean-Francois Panisset @ June 22, 2017, 2:20 a.m.
It is so frustrating, isn't it? We've been trying to get "single sign on" and license provisioning working with CC Enterprise. Might as well be trying to build a particle accelerator: deploying an application shouldn't require rocket appliances. Once in a while you get a new application that comes as a .tar.gz / .zip that unpacks into a sensibly named, fully versioned directory, you copy it to the server, setenv VENDOR_LICENSE to your RLM server, and are off to the races. "It was a good day...". On another mailing list I'm on people seem to be falling all over themselves over Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer... JF On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Dan Mons wrote: > On 22 June 2017 at 05:44, Saker Klippsten wrote: >> >> >> https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/21/facebook-open-sources-its-it-management-tool-for-distributing-adobes-creative-cloud-tools-to-employees/ >> >> So yeah TLDR; we spent engineering $$ and resources to make an app to >> deploy Adobe software cause your license scheme and deployment software that >> comes with it.. suckz > > > Adobe continually make it very clear that they have little intention of > supporting business/studio/corporate style rollouts of their applications, > and their focus is similar to that of Apple of the "one man band" setups > where a monkey/human clicks "next, next, next, finish" and watches progress > bars. > > It gets pretty boring in 2017 having the same discussions with vendors that > we've all been having for 20 years or more, which is "just give us a bloody > tar.gz and go away". I'm not sure why so many vendors insist on this "one > size fits all" model of deployment, when it clearly doesn't. > > I'm sure it would blow Adobe's mind to learn that many studios don't even > install to local disks. Not for lack of studios trying to tell them, mind > you. But the "listening to customers" thing seems to be less important as > tech companies grow larger and larger. After all, this is the same company > who said publicly "nobody runs Linux, let alone wants our tools on Linux". > > -Dan > > This email is confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. > If you have received this email in error please notify the author and delete > it immediately. This email is not to be distributed without the author's > written consent. Unauthorised forwarding, printing, copying or use is > strictly prohibited and may be a breach of copyright. Any views expressed in > this email are those of the individual sender unless specifically stated to > be the views of Cutting Edge Post Pty Ltd (Cutting Edge). Although this > email has been sent in the belief that it is virus-free, it is the > responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free. No > responsibility is accepted by Cutting Edge for any loss or damage arising in > any way from receipt or use of this email. This email may contain legally > privileged information and privilege is not waived if you have received this > email in error. > > > > To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to > mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe To unsubscribe from the list send a blank e-mail to mailto:studiosysadmins-discuss-request@studiosysadmins.com?subject=unsubscribe

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Response from Dan Mons @ June 21, 2017, 7:30 p.m.
On 22 June 2017 at 05:44, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/21/facebook-open-sources-its-it-management-tool-for-distributing-adobes-creative-cloud-tools-to-employees/

So yeah TLDR; we spent engineering $$ and resources to make an app to deploy Adobe software cause your license scheme and deployment software that comes with it.. suckz

Adobe continually make it very clear that they have little intention of supporting business/studio/corporate style rollouts of their applications, and their focus is similar to that of Apple of the "one man band" setups where a monkey/human clicks "next, next, next, finish" and watches progress bars.
It gets pretty boring in 2017 having the same discussions with vendors that we've all been having for 20 years or more, which is "just give us a bloody tar.gz and go away". I'm not sure why so many vendors insist on this "one size fits all" model of deployment, when it clearly doesn't.
I'm sure it would blow Adobe's mind to learn that many studios don't even install to local disks. Not for lack of studios trying to tell them, mind you. But the "listening to customers" thing seems to be less important as tech companies grow larger and larger. After all, this is the same company who said publicly "nobody runs Linux, let alone wants our tools on Linux".
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Response from Mathieu Mauser @ June 21, 2017, 4:25 p.m.
Saker,
The Facebook team shares a lot of code as Open Source. Chef cookbooks and a lot more. We talked about Nick McSpaddens newest Adobe management project at MacDevOps. It was mentioned in the hallway track. :)
On the MacAdmins Slack teams there are 10,000 admins talking about how much Adobes apps are hard to manage. Its a re-occurring theme!
:)
Mat X
On Jun 21, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/21/facebook-open-sources-its-it-management-tool-for-distributing-adobes-creative-cloud-tools-to-employees/

So yeah TLDR; we spent engineering $$ and resources to make an app to deploy Adobe software cause your license scheme and deployment software that comes with it.. suckz




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Response from Doug Meyer @ April 4, 2017, 1:40 p.m.
Cautiously optimistic, but I'll believe it when it ships.  
And is updated 2-3 times in a row in a timely manner.
And they fix all of the broken stuff in MacOS.


On Apr 04, 2017, at 01:24 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:

Hi,
This news I like very much.
Thanks for the post.
- Brian
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On Apr 4, 2017, at 10:04 AM, William Sandler <william.sandler@allthingsmedia.com> wrote:https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/04/apple-pushes-the-reset-button-on-the-mac-pro/


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Response from Joe Chonacky @ Dec. 2, 2016, 5:25 a.m.
Never thought that was true.  As you know, extensive experience.  What is the evidence for this?
----- Reply message -----
From: "J Bills" <jbillsnews@flickfx.com>
To: <studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com>
Subject: [SSA-Discuss] mapped drives vs UNC performance
Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2016 23:47
Hey SSA - came up on the Nuke list and has me curious:   is it still the
case with modern windows/samba etc that a //UNC path is slower than a
mapped drive?   Been any change to this behavior the last few years?

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Response from Bruce Dobrin @ Sept. 21, 2016, 7:55 p.m.
NOt sure if its really going to help that much to make home-grown a giant SSD array.  normally the bottle neck seems to be head contention,  the filer heads cant process all the IOPS rather than the speed of the disk.  We ran into 41000 IOPS limit on our older HNAS HUS150 with 3090,  our new G400 with 4080 heads seems to be good up to 60K IOPS.  in both cases,  the disks didn't seem to even be breathing hard.
My $.02



From: Todd Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 3:56 PM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com

@Saham, did you take my advice and scale back the number of threads Nuke is using on the render nodes?  That is my primary recommendation.  Nuke runs relatively quickly even with 1 thread per machine, additionally this will ease load on your file servers.  Yes Nuke jobs will require more processing time, however, given that you are bringing your NAS to a standstill, this will be most likely be balanced by an improvement in NAS response times to the render nodes.
Additionally you may ask artists to pre comp out finished parts of the comp that will not be revisited.  This will bring down the number of read nodes needed in the actual comp, and thus the necessary read traffic from the NAS to the render node.  We've found many "new" comp artists aren't familiar with comp'ing on large NAS based networks (full rez, no proxy, no pre comp all the time), so it may be something that needs to be enforced for them to get used to it.
Both of these feats require $0 investment.
Cheers,
Todd SmithHead of Information Technology
soho vfx | 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com

@Todd,
The issue we have currently is the READs are killing the performance on the server, we are writing the Writes to the local node, and then copying back to the server after. Too many large files needing to be read by nodes, scaled by 40 nodes. and then artists trying to use that same server to continue comping.
Really am considering just building a massive Flash storage box, and creating a symlink to the outputs directory for the comp and CG outputs.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Todd Smith <todd@sohovfx.com> wrote:
If the problem he is encountering is fast Nuke writes killing his NAS performance, then client side caching is going to have little to no effect. 
Since each render node is reading a unique set of frames, and successive renders of the same frame will rarely hit the same render node, client side caching will not be viable.Avere will fair slightly better mainly because of delayed write back which can help smooth out performance, and the chances of the data being in the cache already are higher, due to the artist working on the NAS based footage at their desk.


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soho vfx | 99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com

@SahamSorry, totally missed this reply last week. How about this as a $free option. Please do get in touch with Thinkbox support. They have a couple of scripts for Maya to cache locally all/some(filtering system) asset data and dynamically rewire the scene file up, before proceeding with render/sim/bake/script/bifrost/export job. This code will see the light of day for everyone, but we have much bigger plans in this space. Of course, using Avere or PerfAccel will really help here, assuming the budget is available.
On 16 September 2016 at 16:10, Rob Tomson <content@studiosysadmins.com> wrote:

If you have a Linux farm with local SSDs accessing storage over NFS, I would check out PerfAccel (http://datagres.com/perfaccel_caching.html). It's a persistent client-side NFS cache and works very well to reduce filer load and bring the data closer to the compute nodes.

 

Rob


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Response from Bruce Dobrin @ Aug. 4, 2016, 4:50 p.m.
. and at 7lb per gallon of mineral oil.  I already have a floor loading issue.  and Im not sure William at Bell would appreciate having to clean oil out of his rentals



From: Dan Young
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:56 PM
To: studiosysadmins-discuss@studiosysadmins.com

I would put it to you, that in LA, NY, London, Paris, Chicago, Vancouver and most cities where our industry is prevalent, the paltry savings of 1.7 to 1.1 are meaningless compared to the sheer cost of rental per sqft - and that this is a monstrosity of a false economy.

\_()_/

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Peter Smith <lists@kush-t.co.uk> wrote:
As far as I understand, the blades are more dense than current blades, and you can fit a lot more in than shown in some of the diagrams. How many, exactly, I'm not sure, but as Dave Goodbourn said, I think they're looking at putting them in back to back.

More compute, less noise/power/cost.

My concerns are about upgrades, and having water _anywhere_ near my server room.

Piqued my interest though. Bringing the "Power Usage Effectiveness" down from an industry average of 1.7 to 1.1 or below is a step change.
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On 04/08/16 18:00, Rob LaRose wrote:
9 servers in 24RU, though.  Is that a bit space-wasteful?


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On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:

WOW, I like whats Im seeing.
Havent read everything yet though.
Perhaps good timing as Im reviewing our current space heater farm.
- Brian
A good day is when no one shows up... and you don't have to go anywhere."
On Aug 4, 2016, at 8:00 AM, Peter Smith <lists@kush-t.co.uk> wrote:
Hola!

Anyone looked at this technology? http:/www.iceotope.com/

Just had a quick tour myself. Looks VERY interesting for our industry needs.

What do you think?
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Response from Bruce Dobrin @ July 21, 2016, 7:25 p.m.
Not that it directly answer your question,  but a few years ago I had a bunch of continuity and install problems with some 25ft Stewart Screens.  Running out of time I decided to try one of the non-perf Harkness  Matt Plus Screens.  It was terrific for my application,  and we just  build a frame out of speed-rail and strung it ourselves,  after 3 weeks under tension the PVC screen flattened out and looked great,  never heard any complaints and I think its still in use.

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I need one too
Los Angeles

On Thursday, July 21, 2016, Ryan Lynch <76.lynch.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Oops, that's good information isn't it? Sorry, first day back from a two week vacation.

Los Angeles, specifically Santa Monica.

Thanks,

Ryan

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
where art thou?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Ryan Lynch <76.lynch.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Looking for a projection screen vendor / installer. I'm looking at a specific Stewart Film Screen but the vendor Stewart recommended seems to only have experience with churches and schools. I'd like to find someone has has dealt with real screening rooms.

Anyone got a solid recommend?

Thanks,

Ryan

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Response from Doug Meyer @ April 13, 2016, 10:15 a.m.
Great way to start your day with a hot steaming pile of spam.



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Response from John Hickson @ June 19, 2015, 11 a.m.

Yes, please refrain from using the forums area for sales pitches - this is for discussions, questions and answers.

If someone asks a specific question and you are answering it that is great.

 

Thanks you./

 

-john

 

On 2015-06-19 10:49, Todd Smith wrote:

Hey John, Any chance we can mute this constant Oracle sales pitch? This guys isn't adding any value here. Thanks, Todd Smith Head of Information Technology soho vfx |  99 Atlantic Ave. Suite 303, Toronto, Ontario M6K 3J8 office: (416) 516-7863 fax: (416) 516-9682 web: sohovfx.com
 

Ivan,

After a short search, I came up with nothing, just as you have. I would suggest thinking about the time and effort it would take, even if you could find the exact drives you were looking for, and then try to integrate, test, troubleshoot and then put them into production. My suggestion would be taking a look at a refresh of h/w and then spending your time migrating your data to the new architecture. There are a lot of great choices out there but we have found that the Oracle ZFS products have the highest perfomance and lowest TCO of any of the NAS offerigs and as a plus the product can also have a co-existing SAN personality along with the NAS simplicity, performance and lower cost.

LMK if you woud like some additional information or one of our vendors that have this solution and they can telll you whathe they think about going that direction.

Mark

 

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