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Help explaining and/or choosing between two different solutions?
posted by Anonymous  on March 5, 2015, 12:35 p.m. (5 years, 4 months, 29 days ago)
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This is easy. If you're the brains of the group, and you're leaving, Dell will have better support. Which is probably what they need. Sure, it may be overkill, and more money, but it's got a better possibility of staying online :)
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From:Gustaf Larm <content@studiosysadmins.com>
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Date:Wed, 04 Mar 2015 10:13:31 -0000
Subject:[SSA-Discuss] Help explaining and/or choosing between two different solutions?

Hi everyone!

I've been trying to get my current workplace to upgrade their storage and network, and now I got a Go for doing something. I'm trying to help them choose, but without much success.
We've got several offers, that they shut down because money-reasons, but somehow got one they like.

Recently they got an suggestion (from someone else) that's based on synology hardware. It's an DS2015xs (https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS2015xs#spec), offered to run with 8 WD RED at 4 TB with synologys hybrid raid 2 (raid 6 equivalent).
They loved it, since they can run an FTPserver on it, a DNSserver, synologys cloudstorage (like dropbox) and a few other mobile services.
All in all, it will cost about $3k plus installation. They love it because the cloudstorage stuff, and the pricepoint, and the guy said the performance should be around 900MB/s (read).

Another solution that they shut down before, is a Dell Poweredge R720 (2x Xeon E5-2630v2,128 GB RAM, 4 x 480 GB SSD, 2x146 15Krpm SAS drives, 2x 10gbe) and a powerVault MD1200 with 12x4TB Nearline SAS. Would run Windows storage spaces, with the SSD's as cache and a Raid 10. A total of $17k with installation and support. Would go down in cost since I see no need too have that much ram or even two cpu's, so I'm thinking it will end around $10-12k

Short about us (or them, I've put in my notice to quit and my last day is in 3 weeks), it's 11 employees, 3 administrative, 6 2d/3d-vfx artists, 1 editors and 1 colorist. Sometimes up to 6 freelancers doing vfx-work.
Working mostly with Maya, Adobe CC, Final Cut and Resolve. Pretty standard workflow, mostly DPX's, TIFs and ProRes. They also want to be able to edit directly on the storage. A small renderfarm with 10 nodes, soon-to-be 20, rendering 75% of the time. (75% windows, 25% osx)

I've been trying to explain the differences between th e DELL solution and Synology, why there's a price difference, about redundancy etc, but always get stuck on first step since the spec on paper looks the same,
24TB usable space, 10GBe connection, around 900MB/s from synology, 1200MB/s from the DELL (according to a real-world test our vendor did inhouse). My concerns are more about redundancy, rebuild-times, type of drives, the CPU of synology, support etc.

Do any of you have any experience with either solution, or can see a problem with either one? maybe something positive? Or what they should get? They do have a trust-issue with me, and whatever I think, they won't really listen to me, unless someone externally can confirm my thoughts.

I have no real experience with synology except their home-consumer stuff, which I like, but don't really know what I'm thinking about the DS2015xs. And I can't get the decision-makers to understand why there is a price-difference like that between this synology an d every other solution they've got. They are people who never invested in IT at all during their 7 running a company.

P.S. Our current solutions is an Yotta SAN, connected with Fiber to a PC running Nas4Free and shared out with 1 Gbit ethernet connection (the only upgrade I got to do, from the old crappy Hackintosh solutions they used).

Thanks in advance for any thoughts and or questions.

//Gustaf


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