Maybe it's just me but it seems that as internet connectivity becomes ubiquitous software companies will opt to license software themselves in the cloud. ?You could effectively eliminate piracy (messing with mac's, users viewing serials in the About sections, users taking local licenses home with them and then tweaking mac's, etc...) with the exception of people cracking the executables. ?Seems to work for cinesync and a few other programs and before you fire off a reply about losing internet...it could be designed to proxy through local vm appliances for those instances where the internet goes out.
I know there is probably backlash on the customer side as when you purchase something you want to own it outright without relying on someone else but I believe a lot of studios could benefit from purchasing subscription/rental based licenses that scale with production workflow and this model would fit perfectly in that situation (assuming the software companies could alter their rental pricing to make it more realistic for long term ownership) ? Also as our workforce becomes more distributed geographically a system like this could benefit both the software companies and their end users (think hiring a remote freelancer who needs access to your software but you don't want to worry about having a VPN setup dedicated to licensing). ?
Thoughts:- It's definitely technically possible to do but maybe there's just not a company out there like flex/rlm that makes it easy for software companies to implement. ?
- Maybe software companies don't want to have to worry about licensing?? Doesn't make much sense as that is how they generate revenue
- Maybe software companies fear customer backlash?If the software is good people will use it no matter how it is licensed. ?How many of you would drop Nuke just because the licensing scheme changed
- Some other reason I'm missing?

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:07 PM, mjnowen <mjnowen@gmail.com> wrote:

I think a good halfway house is run your license server as a VM for DR purposes but buy a USB dongle with a MAC address. Buy an AnywhereUSB hub and then present your dongle over your LAN as if it was physically connected to that VM. Then DR works via vMotion and software vendors are happy as you have a physical MAC address.

On 7 Mar 2012, at 01:12, Greg Ercolano <erco_mlist@seriss.com> wrote:

> On 03/06/12 14:09, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>> Yeah I have not tested on a VM...
>>
>> under line 5 though it said they lock it out.. maybe your license was before they started to do that.
>>
>> "PLEASE NOTE: ?Your server may NOT be a Virtual Machine. ?While it is theoretically possible for RLM to support VM's, there have been way too many reports of it being highly unreliable. ?For that reason we have currently disabled that option. ?Your server must be a physical machine."
>
> ? ?For what it's worth, as a vendor I understand not wanting to
> ? ?support floating licenses for virtual machines; as it disconnects
> ? ?the association with physical hardware.
>
> ? ?So if the license finds its way into the wild, the only way it
> ? ?could be used by a bad guy is someone masquerading the MAC.
> ? ?And should a court case come of it, the bad guy would be unable
> ? ?to supply a physical device representing the license, and thereby
> ? ?breaking contract.
>
> ? ?Floating licenses are supposed to make both sides happy;
> ? ?the vendor secure in knowing their license is locked to physical hardware,
> ? ?and the end user is able to manage large networks from a single box,
> ? ?avoiding node locks and/or dongles.
>
> ? ?From RLM's own site, it's obviously a issue of security
> ? ?and legality that they try to enforce this:
>
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/rlm/more-features.php
> "Protect your rights by restricting licenses and license servers
> from running within virtual machines."
>
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/options/options_2_7.htm
> "As the use of Virtual Machine (VM) software becomes more widespread,
> software vendors are realizing that by using VMs to replicate whole
> operating environments on a single host, users can also replicate (clone)
> the licensing system used to limit the number of licenses on that host.
> Since licenses are usually tied or "node-locked" to a host using the
> Ethernet hardware address, this means that users can also gain access
> to extra application licenses - in most cases exceeding the scope
> of their license agreement."
>
> http://www.green.reprisesoftware.com/v5.htm
> "RLM servers now detect that they are running on a virtual machine.
> If an RLM license server is run on a virtual machine, it will refuse
> to operate (by default). This behavior is controlled by a setting in
> rlm_isv_config.c. The disable= specification now accepts the
> VM parameter to disable individual licenses used on virtual machines."

--
Michael Oliver
mcoliver@gmail.com
858.336.1438

I think a good halfway house is run your license server as a VM for DR purposes but buy a USB dongle with a MAC address. Buy an AnywhereUSB hub and then present your dongle over your LAN as if it was physically connected to that VM. Then DR works via vMotion and software vendors are happy as you have a physical MAC address.

On 7 Mar 2012, at 01:12, Greg Ercolano <erco_mlist@seriss.com> wrote:

> On 03/06/12 14:09, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>> Yeah I have not tested on a VM...
>>
>> under line 5 though it said they lock it out.. maybe your license was before they started to do that.
>>
>> "PLEASE NOTE: ?Your server may NOT be a Virtual Machine. ?While it is theoretically possible for RLM to support VM's, there have been way too many reports of it being highly unreliable. ?For that reason we have currently disabled that option. ?Your server must be a physical machine."
>
> ? ?For what it's worth, as a vendor I understand not wanting to
> ? ?support floating licenses for virtual machines; as it disconnects
> ? ?the association with physical hardware.
>
> ? ?So if the license finds its way into the wild, the only way it
> ? ?could be used by a bad guy is someone masquerading the MAC.
> ? ?And should a court case come of it, the bad guy would be unable
> ? ?to supply a physical device representing the license, and thereby
> ? ?breaking contract.
>
> ? ?Floating licenses are supposed to make both sides happy;
> ? ?the vendor secure in knowing their license is locked to physical hardware,
> ? ?and the end user is able to manage large networks from a single box,
> ? ?avoiding node locks and/or dongles.
>
> ? ?From RLM's own site, it's obviously a issue of security
> ? ?and legality that they try to enforce this:
>
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/rlm/more-features.php
> "Protect your rights by restricting licenses and license servers
> from running within virtual machines."
>
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/options/options_2_7.htm
> "As the use of Virtual Machine (VM) software becomes more widespread,
> software vendors are realizing that by using VMs to replicate whole
> operating environments on a single host, users can also replicate (clone)
> the licensing system used to limit the number of licenses on that host.
> Since licenses are usually tied or "node-locked" to a host using the
> Ethernet hardware address, this means that users can also gain access
> to extra application licenses - in most cases exceeding the scope
> of their license agreement."
>
> http://www.green.reprisesoftware.com/v5.htm
> "RLM servers now detect that they are running on a virtual machine.
> If an RLM license server is run on a virtual machine, it will refuse
> to operate (by default). This behavior is controlled by a setting in
> rlm_isv_config.c. The disable= specification now accepts the
> VM parameter to disable individual licenses used on virtual machines."

Thanks Colin, great info.
- Brian
On Mar 6, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Colin Doncaster wrote:

You need to get your vendor to issue a rlm_server_enable_vm license for the virtual machine. 


On 2012-03-06, at 3:02 PM, Rory Falloon wrote:

RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/

Rory Falloon
Snr. Systems Administrator
Mr. X Inc.
35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
Toronto, ON  M5T 1V7
T:  (416) 595-6222, x 290
E:  rory@mrxfx.com

---

From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari

ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the "Cascade" file..... I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).

And then there's ADLM...

JF


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on
> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy
> to backup)
>
> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
> some plugins and now foundry.
>
> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing
> who's using what. there are also full command line  to get at that info and
> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend
> our usage for purchasing more lics
>
> Nuke is flexlm
> Mari after version 1 is RLM
> Autodesk is flexlm
>
> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd
> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.

-- 
          ,|//,
         ( o - )
--oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
Saham Ali
IT/Systems Manager

Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
225 Gold Ave. SW
Albuquerque, NM 87102

407.729.3584 - Direct
 
   .ooO
   (    )     Ooo.
---  ( ------(    )-------------------
     \_)       )  /
               (_/

Saham in fact Zbrush is not supported technically. I did not try it because we do not have a VM lic server but.. I remembered in the directions when we upgraded to floating ( needed to have 10 licenses before they would let us ) So glad we did I hated moving this around the facility.

Also I did not know Zbrush was on 9.0? We are 4.0 R3. ( Which is the latest according to the pixologic website ) are you referring to another software?


Here is a snip from the e-mail I received from Beth.

Second, we'll need the following information:

1) The Cleverbridge reference number created by redeeming your link above.
2) For each licensing server you'll be using, we need the MAC address and the IP address. ?VM's are NOT supported.
3) The desired server port if your network needs something other than 2376.
4) We need to know the platform that the server is on.
5) We'll also need to know which operating system(s) the client machines will be running. Will they be all Mac, all PC or a combination of the two?

PLEASE NOTE: ?Your server may NOT be a Virtual Machine. ?While it is theoretically possible for RLM to support VM's, there have been way too many reports of it being highly unreliable. ?For that reason we have currently disabled that option. ?Your server must be a physical machine.

Simply reply to this email with that information. Once we have received it we'll be able to start creating your licenses for you.


Sincerely,

Beth Cortes Ner
http://support.pixologic.com
Website: ?www.ZBrush.com
User Forum: ?www.ZBrushCentral.com
ZBrush Learning Resources: www.pixologic.com/zclassroom




On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/blog/?s=vm
>
> "Licensing on Virtual Machines is supported in RLM via a parameter in
> the license itself that controls whether it will or will not run under
> VM. ?Vendors can deliver both kinds of licenses to their customers -
> disabled and enabled - allowing them to, for example, issue short-term
> VM-capable licenses for testing and evaluation purposes, but disabling
> other licenses for long-term production deployment, or allow certain
> customers, but not all, to run their licenses on VMs."
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Saham Ali <sahamali@redearthvfx.com> wrote:
>> Currently I am using it for Zbrush and Ocula and Mari.
>> No issues
>> Zbrush = ? ? ?v9.0v (build2)
>> Ocula/Mari=v 8.0 (build 6)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is?
>>>
>>> We've had no issues, what version(s) of RLM is every one running?
>>>
>>> We have a few versions on our server depending on the app its licensing.
>>>
>>> - Brian
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rory . What software are you using with RLM on the VM.
>>>> There is a feature inside of RLM that prevents RLM from working on any
>>>> VM. I am guessing this is the issue and that the maker of your
>>>> software has enabled this bit.
>>>> -S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rory Falloon <rory@mrxfx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory Falloon
>>>>> Snr. Systems Administrator
>>>>> Mr. X Inc.
>>>>> 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
>>>>> Toronto, ON ?M5T 1V7
>>>>> T: ?(416) 595-6222, x 290
>>>>> E: ?rory@mrxfx.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
>>>>> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the
>>>>> "Cascade" file.....
>>>>> I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset
>>>>> <panisset@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
>>>>>> CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
>>>>>> it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
>>>>>> wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
>>>>>> anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
>>>>>> license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
>>>>>> work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
>>>>>> could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's ADLM...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. (
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>> to backup)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
>>>>>>> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> some plugins and now foundry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page
>>>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> who's using what. there are also full command line ?to get at that
>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us
>>>>>>> trend
>>>>>>> our usage for purchasing more lics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nuke is flexlm
>>>>>>> Mari after version 1 is RLM
>>>>>>> Autodesk is flexlm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for
>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ?,|//,
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ( o - )
>>>>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>>>>> Saham Ali
>>>>> IT/Systems Manager
>>>>>
>>>>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>>>>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>>>>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>>>>
>>>>> 407.729.3584?- Direct
>>>>>
>>>>> ? .ooO
>>>>> ? ( ? ?) ? ? Ooo.
>>>>> --- ?( ------( ? ?)-------------------
>>>>> ? ? \_) ? ? ? ) ?/
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (_/
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ? ? ? ? ? ,|//,
>> ? ? ? ?? ( o - )
>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>> Saham Ali
>> IT/Systems Manager
>>
>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>
>> 407.729.3584 - Direct
>>
>> ?? .ooO
>> ?? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
>> ---? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
>> ? ?? \_)? ? ?? )? /
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? (_/

Saker,I was speaking in regards to the RLM software version that was hosting the Pixologic?license.
It is interesting that Beth mentioned that regarding the VM... I fired it up and it worked right away, not once hiccup since it was installed. (i know I just screwed myself)
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:

Saham in fact Zbrush is not supported technically. I did not try it because we do not have a VM lic server but.. I remembered in the directions when we upgraded to floating ( needed to have 10 licenses before they would let us ) So glad we did I hated moving this around the facility.

Also I did not know Zbrush was on 9.0? We are 4.0 R3. ( Which is the latest according to the pixologic website ) are you referring to another software?


Here is a snip from the e-mail I received from Beth.

Second, we'll need the following information:

1) The Cleverbridge reference number created by redeeming your link above.
2) For each licensing server you'll be using, we need the MAC address and the IP address. ?VM's are NOT supported.
3) The desired server port if your network needs something other than 2376.
4) We need to know the platform that the server is on.
5) We'll also need to know which operating system(s) the client machines will be running. Will they be all Mac, all PC or a combination of the two?

PLEASE NOTE: ?Your server may NOT be a Virtual Machine. ?While it is theoretically possible for RLM to support VM's, there have been way too many reports of it being highly unreliable. ?For that reason we have currently disabled that option. ?Your server must be a physical machine.

Simply reply to this email with that information. Once we have received it we'll be able to start creating your licenses for you.


Sincerely,

Beth Cortes Ner
http://support.pixologic.com
Website: ?www.ZBrush.com
User Forum: ?www.ZBrushCentral.com
ZBrush Learning Resources: www.pixologic.com/zclassroom




On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/blog/?s=vm
>
> "Licensing on Virtual Machines is supported in RLM via a parameter in
> the license itself that controls whether it will or will not run under
> VM. ?Vendors can deliver both kinds of licenses to their customers -
> disabled and enabled - allowing them to, for example, issue short-term
> VM-capable licenses for testing and evaluation purposes, but disabling
> other licenses for long-term production deployment, or allow certain
> customers, but not all, to run their licenses on VMs."
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Saham Ali <sahamali@redearthvfx.com> wrote:
>> Currently I am using it for Zbrush and Ocula and Mari.
>> No issues
>> Zbrush = ? ? ?v9.0v (build2)
>> Ocula/Mari=v 8.0 (build 6)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is?
>>>
>>> We've had no issues, what version(s) of RLM is every one running?
>>>
>>> We have a few versions on our server depending on the app its licensing.
>>>
>>> - Brian
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rory . What software are you using with RLM on the VM.
>>>> There is a feature inside of RLM that prevents RLM from working on any
>>>> VM. I am guessing this is the issue and that the maker of your
>>>> software has enabled this bit.
>>>> -S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rory Falloon <rory@mrxfx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory Falloon
>>>>> Snr. Systems Administrator
>>>>> Mr. X Inc.
>>>>> 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
>>>>> Toronto, ON ?M5T 1V7
>>>>> T: ?(416) 595-6222, x 290
>>>>> E: ?rory@mrxfx.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
>>>>> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the
>>>>> "Cascade" file.....
>>>>> I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset
>>>>> <panisset@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
>>>>>> CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
>>>>>> it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
>>>>>> wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
>>>>>> anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
>>>>>> license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
>>>>>> work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
>>>>>> could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's ADLM...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. (
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>> to backup)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
>>>>>>> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> some plugins and now foundry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page
>>>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> who's using what. there are also full command line ?to get at that
>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us
>>>>>>> trend
>>>>>>> our usage for purchasing more lics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nuke is flexlm
>>>>>>> Mari after version 1 is RLM
>>>>>>> Autodesk is flexlm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for
>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ?,|//,
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ( o - )
>>>>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>>>>> Saham Ali
>>>>> IT/Systems Manager
>>>>>
>>>>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>>>>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>>>>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>>>>
>>>>> 407.729.3584?- Direct
>>>>>
>>>>> ? .ooO
>>>>> ? ( ? ?) ? ? Ooo.
>>>>> --- ?( ------( ? ?)-------------------
>>>>> ? ? \_) ? ? ? ) ?/
>>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (_/
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ? ? ? ? ? ,|//,
>> ? ? ? ?? ( o - )
>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>> Saham Ali
>> IT/Systems Manager
>>
>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>
>> 407.729.3584 - Direct
>>
>> ?? .ooO
>> ?? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
>> ---? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
>> ? ?? \_)? ? ?? )? /
>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? (_/

--
? ? ? ? ? ,|//,
? ? ? ?? ( o - )
--oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
Saham Ali
IT/Systems Manager

Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
225 Gold Ave. SW
Albuquerque, NM 87102

407.729.3584 - Direct
?
?? .ooO
?? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
---? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
? ?? \_)? ? ?? )? /
? ? ? ? ? ? ?? (_/

Saham in fact Zbrush is not supported technically. I did not try it because we do not have a VM lic server but.. I remembered in the directions when we upgraded to floating ( needed to have 10 licenses before they would let us ) So glad we did I hated moving this around the facility.

Also I did not know Zbrush was on 9.0? We are 4.0 R3. ( Which is the latest according to the pixologic website ) are you referring to another software?


Here is a snip from the e-mail I received from Beth.

Second, we'll need the following information:

1) The Cleverbridge reference number created by redeeming your link above.
2) For each licensing server you'll be using, we need the MAC address and the IP address.  VM's are NOT supported.
3) The desired server port if your network needs something other than 2376.
4) We need to know the platform that the server is on.
5) We'll also need to know which operating system(s) the client machines will be running. Will they be all Mac, all PC or a combination of the two?

PLEASE NOTE:  Your server may NOT be a Virtual Machine.  While it is theoretically possible for RLM to support VM's, there have been way too many reports of it being highly unreliable.  For that reason we have currently disabled that option.  Your server must be a physical machine.

Simply reply to this email with that information. Once we have received it we'll be able to start creating your licenses for you.


Sincerely,

Beth Cortes Ner
http://support.pixologic.com
Website:  www.ZBrush.com
User Forum:  www.ZBrushCentral.com
ZBrush Learning Resources: www.pixologic.com/zclassroom




On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.reprisesoftware.com/blog/?s=vm
>
> "Licensing on Virtual Machines is supported in RLM via a parameter in
> the license itself that controls whether it will or will not run under
> VM.  Vendors can deliver both kinds of licenses to their customers -
> disabled and enabled - allowing them to, for example, issue short-term
> VM-capable licenses for testing and evaluation purposes, but disabling
> other licenses for long-term production deployment, or allow certain
> customers, but not all, to run their licenses on VMs."
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Saham Ali <sahamali@redearthvfx.com> wrote:
>> Currently I am using it for Zbrush and Ocula and Mari.
>> No issues
>> Zbrush =      v9.0v (build2)
>> Ocula/Mari=v 8.0 (build 6)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is?
>>>
>>> We've had no issues, what version(s) of RLM is every one running?
>>>
>>> We have a few versions on our server depending on the app its licensing.
>>>
>>> - Brian
>>>
>>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rory . What software are you using with RLM on the VM.
>>>> There is a feature inside of RLM that prevents RLM from working on any
>>>> VM. I am guessing this is the issue and that the maker of your
>>>> software has enabled this bit.
>>>> -S
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rory Falloon <rory@mrxfx.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory Falloon
>>>>> Snr. Systems Administrator
>>>>> Mr. X Inc.
>>>>> 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
>>>>> Toronto, ON  M5T 1V7
>>>>> T:  (416) 595-6222, x 290
>>>>> E:  rory@mrxfx.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
>>>>> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the
>>>>> "Cascade" file.....
>>>>> I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset
>>>>> <panisset@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
>>>>>> CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
>>>>>> it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
>>>>>> wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
>>>>>> anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
>>>>>> license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
>>>>>> work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
>>>>>> could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then there's ADLM...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. (
>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>> to backup)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
>>>>>>> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> some plugins and now foundry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page
>>>>>>> showing
>>>>>>> who's using what. there are also full command line  to get at that
>>>>>>> info
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic
>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us
>>>>>>> trend
>>>>>>> our usage for purchasing more lics
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nuke is flexlm
>>>>>>> Mari after version 1 is RLM
>>>>>>> Autodesk is flexlm
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for
>>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>>> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>          ,|//,
>>>>>         ( o - )
>>>>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>>>>> Saham Ali
>>>>> IT/Systems Manager
>>>>>
>>>>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>>>>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>>>>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>>>>
>>>>> 407.729.3584 - Direct
>>>>>
>>>>>   .ooO
>>>>>   (    )     Ooo.
>>>>> ---  ( ------(    )-------------------
>>>>>     \_)       )  /
>>>>>               (_/
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>           ,|//,
>>          ( o - )
>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>> Saham Ali
>> IT/Systems Manager
>>
>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>
>> 407.729.3584 - Direct
>>
>>    .ooO
>>    (    )     Ooo.
>> ---  ( ------(    )-------------------
>>      \_)       )  /
>>                (_/

http://www.reprisesoftware.com/blog/?s=vm

"Licensing on Virtual Machines is supported in RLM via a parameter in
the license itself that controls whether it will or will not run under
VM. ?Vendors can deliver both kinds of licenses to their customers -
disabled and enabled - allowing them to, for example, issue short-term
VM-capable licenses for testing and evaluation purposes, but disabling
other licenses for long-term production deployment, or allow certain
customers, but not all, to run their licenses on VMs."





On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Saham Ali <sahamali@redearthvfx.com> wrote:
> Currently I am using it for Zbrush and Ocula and Mari.
> No issues
> Zbrush = ? ? ?v9.0v (build2)
> Ocula/Mari=v 8.0 (build 6)
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brian Krusic <brian@krusic.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is?
>>
>> We've had no issues, what version(s) of RLM is every one running?
>>
>> We have a few versions on our server depending on the app its licensing.
>>
>> - Brian
>>
>> On Mar 6, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Saker Klippsten wrote:
>>
>>> Rory . What software are you using with RLM on the VM.
>>> There is a feature inside of RLM that prevents RLM from working on any
>>> VM. I am guessing this is the issue and that the maker of your
>>> software has enabled this bit.
>>> -S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rory Falloon <rory@mrxfx.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/
>>>>
>>>> Rory Falloon
>>>> Snr. Systems Administrator
>>>> Mr. X Inc.
>>>> 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
>>>> Toronto, ON ?M5T 1V7
>>>> T: ?(416) 595-6222, x 290
>>>> E: ?rory@mrxfx.com
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
>>>> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the
>>>> "Cascade" file.....
>>>> I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset
>>>> <panisset@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
>>>>> CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
>>>>> it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
>>>>> wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
>>>>> anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
>>>>> license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
>>>>> work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
>>>>> could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).
>>>>>
>>>>> And then there's ADLM...
>>>>>
>>>>> JF
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. (
>>>>>> easy
>>>>>> to backup)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
>>>>>> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> some plugins and now foundry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page
>>>>>> showing
>>>>>> who's using what. there are also full command line ?to get at that
>>>>>> info
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic
>>>>>> server
>>>>>> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us
>>>>>> trend
>>>>>> our usage for purchasing more lics
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nuke is flexlm
>>>>>> Mari after version 1 is RLM
>>>>>> Autodesk is flexlm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for
>>>>>> 3rd
>>>>>> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ? ? ? ? ?,|//,
>>>> ? ? ? ? ( o - )
>>>> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
>>>> Saham Ali
>>>> IT/Systems Manager
>>>>
>>>> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
>>>> 225 Gold Ave. SW
>>>> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>>>>
>>>> 407.729.3584?- Direct
>>>>
>>>> ? .ooO
>>>> ? ( ? ?) ? ? Ooo.
>>>> --- ?( ------( ? ?)-------------------
>>>> ? ? \_) ? ? ? ) ?/
>>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (_/
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ? ? ? ? ? ,|//,
> ? ? ? ?? ( o - )
> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
> Saham Ali
> IT/Systems Manager
>
> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
> 225 Gold Ave. SW
> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>
> 407.729.3584 - Direct
>
> ?? .ooO
> ?? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
> ---? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
> ? ?? \_)? ? ?? )? /
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? (_/

You need to get your vendor to issue a rlm_server_enable_vm license for the virtual machine. 


On 2012-03-06, at 3:02 PM, Rory Falloon wrote:

RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/

Rory Falloon
Snr. Systems Administrator
Mr. X Inc.
35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
Toronto, ON  M5T 1V7
T:  (416) 595-6222, x 290
E:  rory@mrxfx.com

---

From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari

ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the "Cascade" file..... I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).

And then there's ADLM...

JF


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on
> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy
> to backup)
>
> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
> some plugins and now foundry.
>
> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing
> who's using what. there are also full command line  to get at that info and
> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend
> our usage for purchasing more lics
>
> Nuke is flexlm
> Mari after version 1 is RLM
> Autodesk is flexlm
>
> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd
> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.

-- 
          ,|//,
         ( o - )
--oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
Saham Ali
IT/Systems Manager

Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
225 Gold Ave. SW
Albuquerque, NM 87102

407.729.3584 - Direct
 
   .ooO
   (    )     Ooo.
---  ( ------(    )-------------------
     \_)       )  /
               (_/

RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/

Rory Falloon
Snr. Systems Administrator
Mr. X Inc.
35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
Toronto, ON  M5T 1V7
T:  (416) 595-6222, x 290
E:  rory@mrxfx.com

---

From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari

ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the "Cascade" file..... I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).

And then there's ADLM...

JF


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on
> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy
> to backup)
>
> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
> some plugins and now foundry.
>
> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing
> who's using what. there are also full command line  to get at that info and
> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend
> our usage for purchasing more lics
>
> Nuke is flexlm
> Mari after version 1 is RLM
> Autodesk is flexlm
>
> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd
> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.

-- 
          ,|//,
         ( o - )
--oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
Saham Ali
IT/Systems Manager

Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
225 Gold Ave. SW
Albuquerque, NM 87102

407.729.3584 - Direct
 
   .ooO
   (    )     Ooo.
---  ( ------(    )-------------------
     \_)       )  /
               (_/

Rory . What software are you using with RLM on the VM.
There is a feature inside of RLM that prevents RLM from working on any
VM. I am guessing this is the issue and that the maker of your
software has enabled this bit.
-S



On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Rory Falloon <rory@mrxfx.com> wrote:
> RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/
>
> Rory Falloon
> Snr. Systems Administrator
> Mr. X Inc.
> 35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
> Toronto, ON ?M5T 1V7
> T: ?(416) 595-6222, x 290
> E: ?rory@mrxfx.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
> To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari
>
>
> ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the
> "Cascade" file.....
> I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.
>
> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
>> CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
>> it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
>> wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
>> anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
>> license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
>> work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
>> could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).
>>
>> And then there's ADLM...
>>
>> JF
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one
>> > on
>> > our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
>> > spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. (
>> > easy
>> > to backup)
>> >
>> > At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
>> > joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
>> > some plugins and now foundry.
>> >
>> > RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page
>> > showing
>> > who's using what. there are also full command line ?to get at that info
>> > and
>> > use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
>> > every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us
>> > trend
>> > our usage for purchasing more lics
>> >
>> > Nuke is flexlm
>> > Mari after version 1 is RLM
>> > Autodesk is flexlm
>> >
>> > Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for
>> > 3rd
>> > party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.
>
>
>
>
> --
> ? ? ? ? ? ,|//,
> ? ? ? ?? ( o - )
> --oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
> Saham Ali
> IT/Systems Manager
>
> Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
> 225 Gold Ave. SW
> Albuquerque, NM 87102
>
> 407.729.3584 - Direct
>
> ?? .ooO
> ?? (? ? )? ?? Ooo.
> ---? ( ------(? ? )-------------------
> ? ?? \_)? ? ?? )? /
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? (_/
>

RLM not working on VM(at least vmware) hosts is a pain :-/

Rory Falloon
Snr. Systems Administrator
Mr. X Inc.
35 McCaul Street, Ste. #100
Toronto, ON  M5T 1V7
T:  (416) 595-6222, x 290
E:  rory@mrxfx.com

---

From: "Saham Ali" <sahamali@redearthvfx.com>
To: discuss@studiosysadmins.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:35:37 PM
Subject: Re: [SSA-Discuss] Nuke Ocula Mari

ADLM.... ughhhhh, Ive got workstations that will randomly corrupt the "Cascade" file..... I think RLM is great, Just wish people would use a standard.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Jean-Francois Panisset <panisset@gmail.com> wrote:

Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).

And then there's ADLM...

JF


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on
> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy
> to backup)
>
> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
> some plugins and now foundry.
>
> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing
> who's using what. there are also full command line  to get at that info and
> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend
> our usage for purchasing more lics
>
> Nuke is flexlm
> Mari after version 1 is RLM
> Autodesk is flexlm
>
> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd
> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.

--
          ,|//,
         ( o - )
--oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
Saham Ali
IT/Systems Manager

Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
225 Gold Ave. SW
Albuquerque, NM 87102

407.729.3584 - Direct
 
   .ooO
   (    )     Ooo.
---  ( ------(    )-------------------
     \_)       )  /
               (_/

Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).

And then there's ADLM...

JF


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on
> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy
> to backup)
>
> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
> some plugins and now foundry.
>
> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing
> who's using what. there are also full command line  to get at that info and
> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend
> our usage for purchasing more lics
>
> Nuke is flexlm
> Mari after version 1 is RLM
> Autodesk is flexlm
>
> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd
> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.

Recent GenArts products also use RLM, as well as ZBrush and
CineSpace/EqualEyes. I've heard that the main pitch from RLM is that
it mostly works like FlexLM without the punitive pricing, so I
wouldn't be surprised to see more vendors migrate to it. For me,
anything that convinces vendors to move away from home grown floating
license schemes is a good thing, since those rarely if ever seem to
work well (implementing our own floating license manager, how hard
could it be? to be read in a Jeremy Clarkson voice).

And then there's ADLM...

JF


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Saker Klippsten <sakerk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on
> our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I
> spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy
> to backup)
>
> At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe
> joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then
> some plugins and now foundry.
>
> RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing
> who's using what. there are also full command line ?to get at that info and
> use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server
> every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend
> our usage for purchasing more lics
>
> Nuke is flexlm
> Mari after version 1 is RLM
> Autodesk is flexlm
>
> Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd
> party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.

Yeah there is no definitive how-to for RLM from any vendor. I have one on our wiki I will send out. All the vendors install all over the place. I spent a day cleaning this up and install in one organized directory. ( easy to backup) ?
At first It took a bit to get going we had port conflicts. I believe joe-alters shave and a haircut was our first software that used RLM then some plugins and now foundry.?
RLM works just like flexlm for the most part. With a nice web page showing who's using what. there are also full command line ?to get at that info and use it to tie into your database etc.. (shotgun) we poll the lic server every few min to log who's using what and for how long. This helps us trend our usage for purchasing more lics
Nuke is flexlm?Mari after version 1 is RLMAutodesk is flexlm?
Would be great for foundry /autodesk/adobe to make available away for 3rd party plugin vendors to somehow tie into their licensing.?
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On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:30 AM, Saham Ali <sahamali@redearthvfx.com> wrote:

Hey guys,So I am curious to know how many of you were affected by The Foundry's change in Licensing methods?They used to be all FlexLM and have now migrated to RLM.... Without telling me... Unless I didnt get the memo, they claim they sent out an email. Any who, it states in their Doc for their FLT (Floating License tool for RLM) that?

All Foundry products built between October 2005 and October 2010 were licensed using FLEXlm. The Foundry is currently migrating its products toactivation key based licensing and has chosen to use RLM for the back end licensing.For now, Nuke and Nuke plug-ins will remain FLEXlm based. New productssuch as Mari, Storm, and Katana will switch to using RLM. To summarise:?Foundry FLEXlm Tools (FFT) should be used with all existing and future FLEXlm based products. ?Foundry Licensing Tools (FLT) should be used with all new RLM based products.
Funny part is that Ocula, a plugin for Nuke has already migrated to RLM, so that changes what they just said right away... :-./
So after installing their FLT their FLI (floating license installer) refused to work properly for me. I would launch it and say license installed right away, before I even provided it a license!!
So after some manual hackery of putting files where they need to be, I got RLM to recognize the license files. OK cool! now to test!

Quickly creating a Nuke script that uses Ocula 3.0, bam still sorry, license expired! WTF?!
I was beating my head?against?a wall for most of last night trying to get Ocula to work, but kept saying license expired showing that it was still trying to use the FlexLM method.
Oh hey BTW,?there's?Ocula 3.0v2 which again, no body from The Foundry mentions ANYWHERE you NEED for it to recognize the new ENV VAR for the RLM License server(port@server)....
Oh and hey Silent install for Nuke but not for Ocula or Mari?! WTF!?
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Hey guys,So I am curious to know how many of you were affected by The Foundry's change in Licensing methods?They used to be all FlexLM and have now migrated to RLM.... Without telling me... Unless I didnt get the memo, they claim they sent out an email. Any who, it states in their Doc for their FLT (Floating License tool for RLM) that 

All Foundry products built between October 2005 and October 2010 were licensed using FLEXlm. The Foundry is currently migrating its products toactivation key based licensing and has chosen to use RLM for the back end licensing.For now, Nuke and Nuke plug-ins will remain FLEXlm based. New productssuch as Mari, Storm, and Katana will switch to using RLM. To summarise: Foundry FLEXlm Tools (FFT) should be used with all existing and future FLEXlm based products. Foundry Licensing Tools (FLT) should be used with all new RLM based products.
Funny part is that Ocula, a plugin for Nuke has already migrated to RLM, so that changes what they just said right away... :-./
So after installing their FLT their FLI (floating license installer) refused to work properly for me. I would launch it and say license installed right away, before I even provided it a license!!
So after some manual hackery of putting files where they need to be, I got RLM to recognize the license files. OK cool! now to test!

Quickly creating a Nuke script that uses Ocula 3.0, bam still sorry, license expired! WTF?!
I was beating my head against a wall for most of last night trying to get Ocula to work, but kept saying license expired showing that it was still trying to use the FlexLM method.
Oh hey BTW, there's Ocula 3.0v2 which again, no body from The Foundry mentions ANYWHERE you NEED for it to recognize the new ENV VAR for the RLM License server(port@server)....
Oh and hey Silent install for Nuke but not for Ocula or Mari?! WTF!?
</rant>



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--oOO--(_)--Ooo-----------------
Saham Ali
IT/Systems Manager

Red Earth VFX Studios Inc.
225 Gold Ave. SW
Albuquerque, NM 87102

407.729.3584 - Direct
 
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   (    )     Ooo.
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